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dave 09-18-2003 08:57 AM

Cool changes, Tony
 
I like.

Undertoad 09-18-2003 09:04 AM

Let me guess, you downloaded a new browser.

(wtf you talkin about dude)

Undertoad 09-18-2003 09:09 AM

Wait, you mean how I finally fixed the footer in IE?

dave 09-18-2003 09:56 AM

No, but something weird happened. When I reloaded the "View new posts" page or whatever, there was a link on each one saying "Go to first unread post" which is the thing it's been missing. I thought you had added it or something.

Guitar string breaker.

dave 09-18-2003 09:57 AM

Oh shit! If you click that button, it takes you there! A-ha! HAHAHA!

I HAVE BEEN WANTING THAT FEATURE FOR AT LEAST TWENTY MINUTES NOW! FINALLY, IT IS HERE! (or I've discovered its availability, anyway.)

SteveDallas 09-18-2003 10:42 AM

Umm you mean this one?

http://www.cellar.org/images/firstnew.gif

That's been around forever... was your browser smoking something?

dave 09-18-2003 11:23 AM

No, I just discovered it. I had never clicked it before. When the button didn't load, the text "Go to first unread post" showed up and I was like "Dude, The Tone rules!" But then I realized that it was just that button, and while the Tone still rules, his ruling-ness is less supreme that what I thought it was.

Undertoad 09-18-2003 11:42 AM

Well I DID finally fix the footer in IE.

(Can't believe it looked like crap for so long. Will everyone please just use Mozilla already!)

dave 09-18-2003 11:54 AM

For real. The last time I used IE was... oh yeah, yesterday. To do my timecard. Well, outside of work, it's been a long time. Mozilla & Firebird & Safari & Camino are where it's at.

SteveDallas 09-18-2003 01:46 PM

There are still some garbage sites that break if you don't use Exploder. And we have a database at work with a web access module that refuses to work without IE. Which I always thought was stupidity incarnate--I thought the POINT of web client access was portability.

lisa 09-18-2003 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
Well I DID finally fix the footer in IE.

(Can't believe it looked like crap for so long. Will everyone please just use Mozilla already!)

Hmmm... fixing it just made them less likely to do so.

xoxoxoBruce 09-18-2003 04:48 PM

Hey, wait a minute. Is this gonna be one of them "NERD" sites? click the clique? Remember there's more of us-ins than youse out here.:p

Elspode 09-18-2003 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SteveDallas
I thought the POINT of web client access was portability.
It was, until Bill Gates decided he needed to rule *that*, too.

SteveDallas 09-18-2003 05:19 PM

Gack. It's even in telephones... I'm scoping out new PBXs, and the one that really makes me say, "hmmmm, this is cool, I'd like to have this one" is built on Windows 2000. I mean it's an embedded system, they could have used any OS they wanted. It's the one thing holding me back from giving it my whole-hearted recommendation, because I'm concerned about stability and security.

Cam 09-18-2003 10:03 PM

Is their such a thing as the Double S's in Computer

SS Stability and Security

Or maybe the Triple S's

SSS Stability, Security, and Speed

I havn't been drinking my mind is just going it's own way tonight.

elSicomoro 09-18-2003 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SteveDallas
There are still some garbage sites that break if you don't use Exploder.
MSNBC and VH1 refuse to function properly unless you use IE...at least for me.

I only use IE at home for sites like that...and the games on the iWon toolbar. (Spy Hunter and Joust rule!)

dave 09-19-2003 12:07 AM

MSNBC functions fine for me with Mozilla. I think you're just a retard.

Tobiasly 09-19-2003 07:51 AM

My platoon sergeant always said I'm gonna have retarded kids, because I use the word retarded to describe people.

Of course, he's a retard.

elSicomoro 09-19-2003 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dave
MSNBC functions fine for me with Mozilla.
Including the video clips?

Griff 09-19-2003 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tobiasly
My platoon sergeant always said I'm gonna have retarded kids, because I use the word retarded to describe people.

Of course, he's a retard.

I'm taking a class on MR right now... I didn't notice a section labeled "Cosmic Justice" under causes of mental retardation but my textbook hasn't been updated since 1997.

warch 09-19-2003 12:41 PM

Mozilla is my fire breathing friend. TABS!

Elspode 09-19-2003 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tobiasly
My platoon sergeant always said I'm gonna have retarded kids, because I use the word retarded to describe people.

Of course, he's a retard.

This sounds like the military version of our mother's admonitions against making silly faces...

"If you don't quit that, your face is going to freeze that way forever!"

OnyxCougar 09-19-2003 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dave
Mozilla & Firebird & Safari & Camino are where it's at.
OK, so I'm still way behind on this stuff...is Mozilla like crazy browser? I use that at work, because I always have so many damn windows open, but I still use IE at home.

I also write my pages in HTML, and since I'm self taught, I learned the IE code. Sometimes my stuff doesn't work in Netscape. Which version of HTML does Mozilla support, in other words, since I code for IE, would Mozilla recognize that or does it use the Netscape version?

OnyxCougar 09-19-2003 02:18 PM

OH, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW it's like Netscape! Ugh...quick..let me uninstall this... Ugh...

......................

OK, that's better. Ugh. For those of you that like tabs but prefer IE, go to www.crazybrowser.com .

I have to go shower to get the netscapishness off me....


Undertoad 09-19-2003 02:21 PM

Mozilla will probably resolve your pages more like IE than Netscape, except Netscape 6+, which were roughly based on Mozilla. Mozilla/NS6+ are based on web standards and follow them more closely than IE.

Crazy Browser is IE's guts with a new layer on top and tabs are one of their additions.

OnyxCougar 09-19-2003 02:35 PM

I'm sorry, UT (and Dave), but I can't get over it's Netscapishness. I've been traumatized by NS since version 4.76 and up....I keep trying it and it screwed me every time. I'm done trying with it. And wont use anything that even look similar.

Undertoad 09-19-2003 02:40 PM

That's OK, just use the Modern theme instead of the Classic.
(View -> Apply Theme -> Modern, or you can Get New Themes and make it look completely and totally different.)

OnyxCougar 09-19-2003 02:46 PM

ok.... just because I trust you, UT, I'll try it....

Undertoad 09-19-2003 02:50 PM

Don't just take my word for it, read this

http://mozilla.org/products/firebird/why/

That page is talking about Firebird, which is the Mozilla Browser (basically) and is on a pre-release version. Mozilla 1.4 is the latest Mozilla and everything on that page also applies to Mozilla.

Undertoad 09-19-2003 02:52 PM

I should say that most people could just get Firebird if they want to try it out and get some of these nifty features. Even though it's release 0.61, it's pretty good.

OnyxCougar 09-19-2003 03:14 PM

Well, I reinstalled it.... changed to a skypilot skin since I couldn't seeme to find an IE skin that worked... but it's still got Netscape all over it. It's called "navigator", has "messenger", "composer".... those are all Netscape apps and work like netscape apps. Edit/Preferences, to change the home page for instance. It seems to me that they took the Netscape code and modified it, like CrazyBrowser did to IE.... Am I way off base here?

Undertoad 09-19-2003 03:39 PM

Skypilot is awesome! It's always been my favorite.

Mozilla rose from the ashes of Netscape. The first thing they did was to completely throw out all of Netscape that had anything to do with rendering web pages. This is the guts of the web browser - what takes HTML and its brethren and turns it into web pages.

So while there are one or two things that have the same titles and such, the "meat" of it is completely new. For now, one can just use the browser part of the suite and just forget about mail/newsgroups and Composer, unless you need them. (It's never a bad idea to get rid of Outlook)

OnyxCougar 09-19-2003 03:44 PM

True enough (about the Outlook). I'll have to play with it and see what happens. I'm just having a hard time overcoming my traumatic experiences.... *shiver* I'll start with the mail client.....

Undertoad 09-19-2003 03:55 PM

The only problem is that *sigh* Skypilot doesn't work so well with the Mozilla mail client in 1.4.

Now, Skypilot is an add-on, so it's the author of Skypilot's fault, not Mozilla's fault...

That's why I love Skypilot, but I use Modern.

OnyxCougar 09-19-2003 03:58 PM


OK, how do I create/edit stationery in here? Does it exist? The help file has no information under "stationery". Am I looking for the wrong thing??

Help! I've been a wind-ers victim and I can't get out!


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