The Cellar - Michael Jackson

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He is in the hot seat now. He is one dumb guy. I'm still trying to figure out why it took them so long to finally catch the bastard.

I don't know that he's done much wrong other than be a mental case and the target of nearly 1,000 lawsuits (or is it more, now?). The guy had a pretty miserable, abusive childhood, and now he's got tons of money and is trying to make up for it. If all he's done is to construct a weird fantasy world with an amusement park, he'll have done a lot better than most people who were so badly abused, which is to beat their own children. The guy is still "out there", however.

Is he actually breaking any laws with the children he invites in? Possibly, but there's been no evidence of it, yet.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/148...headlines=true

That explains the sickness of it all.

Apparently you haven't read/heard any of the deposition of the kid that was bought off the last time he was accused of child molestation ...

April -- the MTV article is interesting, but it seems to push the idea that it is widely believed that the parents of the children making the accusations are out for money.

Wolf -- I didn't hear much of the allegations from the previous incident and I'm only aware that there was an out-of-court settlement. All of it seems a bit weird, because if he did break laws then there should have been a criminal trial ending in jailtime and that never happened.

It never happened because the child refused to cooperate with investigators following the multi-million dollar settlement Jackson paid the family.

Page three. Lines 25-28.

Actually, the effect is much more horrifying if you read the whole thing from the beginning, and see the progression from innocent contact to clear molestation.

(in the event that this is moved from the "document of the day" before you get to view it ... search the smoking gun archives for michael jackson.)

That's some fucked-up stuff, Wolf. If its true, I hope he actually gets punished this time and charged with something.

"Rent-a-Wreck" -- where the stars rent their cars.

"How do you think I got so rich ..."

When I heard breaking news story regarding the accusation, my initial thought was "He's (Jackson's) gonna end up killing himself over this."

That's my prediction.

(Mostly I was annoyed over the Jackson story breaking yesterday, because it took a very important story out of the local headlines. (the full report ran only on the 5pm news, with 30 second versions on the later editions.)

something interesting that i read.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertain...31120_736.html

seems that there is legislation now that could prevent mr. jackson from settling with the accuser this time. and it's a direct result of the last trial......a taste of irony for old mj, along with the opportunity for a taste of something else if he goes to jail for this one.

I wonder if some jail time will turn him to ganga rap...he might even go back to being black...even sound catchy.. "MJ - Back2Black"

Ok I'll shut up now...

I have to wonder if someone whose face mostly consists of man-made materials can taste or smell anything. I suppose it depends upon the amount of real tissue left.

Why are the authorities not arresting the parent's of these kids this is not a flippant suggestion..What the Fuck were they doing letting their kids get anywhere near him.
There must be some law about endangering your kids..Man they want to ban smoking in cars if kids are in the car with but its ok to go on a sleepover with a suspected child molester.Shit this world is totally fugazi....

Agreeing with be-bop. The mere accusation should be enough for any parent to keep that freak from within 100 yards of their kids.

Question: Wonder if they let him keep his surgical mask in jail?

Re: Michael jackson

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Originally posted by be-bop
Shit this world is totally fugazi....

I like Minor Threat better. :)

Hes already out. I can't believe they said 3 million for him to get out. I knew as well as everyone else that he could pay that.

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Originally posted by april
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/148...headlines=true

That explains the sickness of it all.

I would tend to thinh\k that getting news from MTV defines "the sickness of it all"

Re: Michael jackson

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Originally posted by be-bop
Why are the authorities not arresting the parent's of these kids this is not a flippant suggestion..What the Fuck were they doing letting their kids get anywhere near him.
There must be some law about endangering your kids..Man they want to ban smoking in cars if kids are in the car with but its ok to go on a sleepover with a suspected child molester.Shit this world is totally fugazi....

I saw on CNN that the parents were basically accusing MJ of kidnapping the whole family. And of course, MJ says that they were guests that would not leave.

I'm a bit surprised he surrendered, but on the other hand, with a face like that, even his money's going to make it hard to hide.

I know a guy from Hollywood who told me some inside info on Jacko less than a month ago. None of it should be too surprising though...

1. Michael Jackson was molested by a Motown Executive as a child.

2. In his adult life he has molested somewhere around 400 boys and has been paying off the families. Emotionally, he himself is still 12 years old. Not in a fun, Peter Pan sort of way, but in a really really sad way.

Like Wolf, I think he will probably kill himself.

The guy does bring this on himself, having slumber party's with kids isnt right, he has had a lot of plastic surgery, he did used to be black BUT does that make him a PEADO?! no. It does not

Facts about the current charge:

There currently is no evidence now, or ever that he has touched a minor

The father of the "victim" has dennounced his wife as unfit, and also comments on M.Jackson as being a good person.

M.Jackson has secruity in his rooms, including his bedroom, if m.jackson is guilty then so must other people.

I'm not saying that he is NOT innocent, but I pray ethier way for all parties, this is NOT a pretty sight, and IF the child was abused, this media circus will scar him even further.

400 kids, and no evidence? If true I hope the american justice system is better than that for your own kids sake!

What's brown and in a diaper?

Michael Jackson's hand.

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Originally posted by Skunks
What's brown and in a diaper?

Michael Jackson's hand.

are you sure you didn't mean what's a gross sort of mealy white?

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Originally posted by russotto
I'm a bit surprised he surrendered, but on the other hand, with a face like that, even his money's going to make it hard to hide.

Hey, everybody's got something to hide, 'cept for Mike and his monkey.

Oh. You said "money". My mistake.

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Originally posted by bmgb
I know a guy from Hollywood who told me some inside info on Jacko less than a month ago. None of it should be too surprising though...

Like Wolf, I think he will probably kill himself.

I knew a guy from Hollywood once. He said that aliens from Antares were coming soon to take away a certain select group of people from our dying planet to start a new civilization somewhere in the Rigelian star system.

I also opined to the wife that MJ would snuff himself before going to prison.

Rat fuck. Kobe now Jackson. It won't be safe to turn on the TV for a year.:mad:

I don't give a damn about the Kobe trial, but I wouldn't mind it if MJ makes the Court TV power rotation. Although I do wish that Court TV ran rebroadcasts of the major trials overnight rather than infomercials starting at 2am. You have NO idea how frustrating it is to actually want to watch something, and settle in for a nice night of, say, History Channel, and have the next exciting program be everything you ever wanted to know about the BowFlex.

I think Leonard Pitts summarized it nicely in the Miami Herald:

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.... He is a 45-year-old man wearing eyeliner and lipstick on a surgically altered face that could give Charles Manson nightmares. He is 10 years removed from a child molestation scandal. His home is a monument to arrested development.

So, how asleep at the switch, how besotted by fame, how flat-out stupid do you have to be to allow him access to your child? When he comes calling with his Mary Poppins umbrella, his parchment skin and his Disney nose to ask if Billy can come out and play, what excuse could you have for not turning on the sprinklers, grabbing a pitchfork and calling 911?

We all know about the plastic surgeries, but it's still kinda jarring to see the pictures, with witty commentary.

      Damn Wolf, good link. Biz-freakin'-are.

Excerpt from Yahoo Story
Meanwhile, more details are emerging about the 12-year-old alleged victim.

Even as Santa Barbara officials have kept the boy's identity secret, most outlets have identified him as a recovering cancer patient seen on TV last February during Martin Bashir's controversial documentary about the eccentric celebrity.

At the time, the boy's mother defended Jackson's slumber-party practices but reportedly changed her mind after the documentary aired and the superstar's reps secured passports to send her and the family to Latin America--a move she saw as a cover-up.

What the mother did or didn't know about Jackson's alleged advances on her son are in dispute.

A divorce attorney who claims to have represented the mother of Jackson's accuser in 2001 said the family never mentioned the abuse. Michael Manning told the Associated Press the mother had nothing but positive things to say about the singer as recently as April or May.

" 'He was really good to us,' that's what she said at the time," recalled Manning. "Nothing badIf it turned sour, I don't know how." The attorney, who still represents the mother in the divorce, said he has not spoken to her since May or June.

On the flipside, a Hollywood comedy-club owner who introduced the "Thriller" singer to the cancer-stricken boy told Extra he realized there was a problem when he received an irate phone call from the boy's mother a few months ago saying "something happened."

Laugh Factor owner Jamie Masada, who refused to reveal exactly what the woman had said, befriended the boy and his family when a social worker referred them to a summer camp Masada runs for underprivileged kids.

"I feel really guilty because I was the person who brought them together," he told Extra. "What would you do if you see a kid [who has] three to four weeks to live and his wish is to meet Michael?"

Meanwhile, New York's Daily News has unearthed court records that show Jackson's accuser allegedly tried to steal clothes from a California store on orders from his father when he was just eight.

Mother and son were arrested and charged with burglary after security guards nabbed the pair with the hot goods in the parking lot. Guards wound up scuffling with the boy and his parents, who later sued, claiming the young boy had suffered a "sprained arm, nightmares and emotional distress."

As part of the settlement, charges against the family were dropped and they collected more than $200,000 for their court claims.

Dad, who has blasted his ex-wife as irresponsible in the press, is a piece of work. In 2001, he pleaded no contest to a charge of wife beating and was sentenced to attend domestic-violence counseling, per a report in Newsweek. The following year, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of willful cruelty to a child in an incident involving his older daughter.

He's currently seeking custody of the three children, which includes a younger brother.

During his press conference Tuesday, Geragos again claimed the allegations were part of a scheme to get money from Jackson, who a decade ago reportedly paid between $15 million and $20 million to a child accuser to drop a civil sexual assault suit against the singer.

Also Excerted from Yahoo, different story

In November 2001, J.C. Penney Co. paid the boy's family $137,500 to settle a lawsuit alleging security guards beat the boy, his mother and his brother in a parking lot in 1998 after the boy left the store with clothes that hadn't been paid for, court records show.

The mother also contended that she was sexually assaulted by one of the guards during the confrontation.

A month before the settlement, the boy's mother had filed for divorce, beginning a bitter fight that would include criminal charges of abuse. The father's attorney, Russell Halpern, said the mother had lied about the abuse and had a "Svengali-like" ability to make her children repeat her lies.

Halpern said the father once showed him a script his wife had allegedly written for their children to use when they were questioned in a civil deposition.

"She wrote out all their testimony. I actually saw the script," Halpern said Tuesday. "I remember my client showing me, bringing the paperwork to me."

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From Yahoo
According to reports, the 45-year-old entertainer, currently free on $3 million bail, is accused of molesting a 12-year-old male cancer patient featured on the British-made documentary Living with Michael Jackson, which aired on ABC last February.

Wednesday's Los Angeles Times said that the reputed victim's family was counseled by the same attorney who secured a reported $15 million settlement from Jackson in 1994. In that decade-old case, Jackson faced allegations of molestation from a 13-year-old boy.

Last March, attorney Larry Feldman, who represented the child from the 1993-94 matter, was contacted by the mother of the boy reputedly involved in the current case, the Times said. The mother was upset that Jackson had given her son wine, sources told the newspaper.

Feldman hooked up the child with a therapist, with the therapist, in turn, alerting authorities to possible child abuse by Jackson, the Times reported.

On Wednesday, Feldman's Santa Monica office said the attorney was not commenting on Jackson.

The reputed Feldman connection may be a blow to Santa Barbara County prosecutors' attempt to distance their current case from the 1993-94 one, which resulted in no criminal charges being brought against Jackson. Jackson's camp, meanwhile, has sought to link the two, their argument perhaps best expressed last week by Jermaine Jackson to ABC News: "This is extortion--the second time around."

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From Yahoo
Memo: No Basis for Jackson Allegations
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By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES - Child welfare investigators earlier this year found there was no basis for allegations that Michael Jackson (news) had abused the boy now accusing him of molestation, according to a confidential memo.

The memo from an administrator with the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services was based on an investigation last February and was leaked to the Web site thesmokinggun.com, which posted it Tuesday. A source familiar with the document confirmed its authenticity to The Associated Press.

The memo was dated Nov. 26, 2003 — a week after the Santa Barbara County district attorney announced child molestation allegations against Jackson.

Both the boy and his brother told investigators Jackson had not sexually abused them, according to the memo. Their older sister said she had never witnessed anything sexually inappropriate between her brothers and the entertainer.

The memo was sent from a regional administrator to medical director Charles Sophy and detailed a probe completed before Sophy joined the agency.

Santa Barbara County District Attorney Thomas Sneddon said in a statement that his office has been aware of the investigation and that it did not affect his decision to pursue charges.

The report and the "totality of the investigation" were provided to the judge when the search and arrest warrants were issued for Jackson, Sneddon said.

"Given what we know we do not consider the DCFS statement a significant factor," he said.

Jackson's defense is certain to seize on the memo.

The memo, which refers to Jackson as "the entertainer," said the department began a 13-day inquiry after a Los Angeles school district official called its hot line Feb. 14 out of concern for the boy and his brother. The investigation was conducted with the Los Angeles police.

The school official suspected neglect by the boy's mother and sexual abuse by Jackson, according to the memo. But the department and the police concluded the allegations were "unfounded," the document said.

Louise Grasmehr, a spokeswoman for the child welfare department, said the leak would probably be investigated because the memo was supposed to be confidential under state laws designed to protect children. Police spokeswoman Officer Sandra Escalante had no comment.

Sgt. Catherine Plows, an LAPD (news - web sites) spokeswoman, said the department had little involvement with the investigation. She said an officer went with a caseworker in February to check on the welfare of a child who had been featured in a Jackson documentary.

The child and his family could not be located at the address, and there was no record of additional police involvement, Plows said.

The school official called the hot line after the child, a cancer patient who had visited Jackson at his Neverland Ranch, appeared in a TV documentary in which the boy told an interviewer he had been a guest for sleepovers at Neverland. In the documentary, Jackson defended his habit of letting children sleep in his bed as "sweet" and non-sexual.

The boy's mother told investigators in February that "she believed the media had taken everything out of context," the memo said. The mother said that the children were never left alone with Jackson and that her son slept in the same room with Jackson but never shared his bed. She said Jackson would sleep on the floor.

Separately, the mother contacted an attorney around the time the documentary aired, saying she thought her son had been abused.

Jackson was booked Nov. 20 on suspicion of child molestation. He has denied the allegations and was released on $3 million bail. Authorities said they expect to file formal charges next week.

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from E! Online
According to the illicitly obtained document, the investigation was sparked by a call to the agency's child-abuse hotline, received a week after Martin Bashir's controversial documentary that detailed Jackson's bizarre habit of sleeping with children.

On February 14, a school official from the Los Angeles Unified School District lodged a complaint out of concern for the boy and his younger brother of "general neglect by mother and sexual abuse by 'an entertainer.' "

Jackson is never named specifically in the confidential document, he's only referred to as "the entertainer."

But in interviews with social workers that ran from February 14-27, the alleged victim "denied any form of sexual abuse" and said that he never "slept in the same bed as the entertainer," which doesn't jibe with claims he later made to Santa Barbara authorities.

In fact, the boy, now 14, and his 12-year-old brother--who also denied sexual abuse--expressed "a fondness for the entertainer and stated they enjoyed visiting his home, where they would often ride in the park, play video games and watch movies."

Their sister, now 17, told investigators that she accompanied her brothers on "sleepovers at the entertainers home," but had "never seen anything sexually inappropriate between her brothers and the entertainer."

Meanwhile, the children's mother told social workers that the pop superstar was "like a father to the children and a part of her family." While acknowledging that her son "has slept in the same room as the entertainer," the mom claimed "they did not share a bed. The entertainer would sleep on the floor," according to the memo.

The memo said the joint probe by DCFS and the Los Angeles Police Department "concluded the allegations of neglect and sexual abuse to be unfounded both by the LAPD (news - web sites)-Wilshire Division and the department."

Although the boy's mother discounted any improper behavior by Jackson when asked by the Los Angeles officials in February, she reportedly changed her mind in June, after learning that Jackson supposedly gave her son wine during a sleepover.

She then contacted an attorney and told him she believed her son had been abused. The attorney referred the boy to a psychologist, who ultimately tipped off the Santa Barbara authorities when, during a therapy session, the child alleged he had been molested by the entertainer.

I don't think he did it.

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Originally posted by bmgb
Like Wolf, I think he will probably kill himself.

Damnation! I knew I should have placed money on this! We need Cellar "media pools".

      How is Micheal Jackson like K-mart?

      Both have boys clothes half-off!
      Bad joke... couldn't help it.

It was inevitable.

Play the game.

(you gotta lead 'em JUST right.)

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Originally posted by wolf
It was inevitable.

Play the game.

(you gotta lead 'em JUST right.)

The night level is really difficult.

Hey I got a joke about Whacko Jacko, I dont know if this is a censored site or not so here it goes

This guy has this awesome sound system, 30 stack CD, Voice Activated selector. He was showing his friend one day.

Man 2: Ok, put on some P.O.D

So a P.O.D song plays........

Man 2: Okay, see if it can do some Eminem

So a Eminem song plays........

So on and on it goes and they are trying to think what to say. The driver gets distracted and doesnt see kids run across the road

He hits the brakes just in time.....he goes "Oh F***in kids

And michael jackson starts to play............