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juju 01-26-2004 08:29 AM

Parenting forum?
 
Would there be any interest in a Parenting forum among the users of the Cellar?

The reason I ask is, I personally find myself hesitant to post threads about kids and such in Home Base, as people without kids wouldn't be the least bit interested in it. On the other hand, if no one here is interested that subject, then perhaps the forum would just end up seeing no activity? I'd feel silly if I was the only one there.

I realize that we run the risk of going forum-happy with this. I ask because I was frequenting a parenting board (mommietalk.com - Yeah, yeah, save the jokes, smartass!), but the moderators are very strict and don't tolerate any disagreement of opinion between the users whatsoever. One person can say, "Oh, that offends me!", and the entire thread will closed. :(

BrianR 01-26-2004 09:37 AM

you may be wrong there. Those of us with no children always seem to know best how others should raise them.

That's just my observation.

That said, I tend to dislike children, although I'm full of advice on what you should be doing with them.

Brian

kerosene 01-26-2004 09:38 AM

I like your idea, juju. I would contribute to this forum, as I am a parent and find the topic interesting.

SteveDallas 01-26-2004 10:17 AM

Re: Parenting forum?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by juju
I realize that we run the risk of going forum-happy with this. I ask because I was frequenting a parenting board (mommietalk.com - Yeah, yeah, save the jokes, smartass!)
Welcome to the world of parenting... we had my son's birthday party this past Saturday at a local indoor kiddie jungle gym kind of place, and when we showed up there was a sepcial nametag for him, and another special nametag pre-made that said "__[kid's name]___'s Mom." Of course there was no nametag for the dad!

juju 01-26-2004 10:46 AM

lol. Yeah, just like in a lot of places, there are changing tables in the women's bathrooms, but not the men's! What a bunch of crap! So much for sharing responsibility. Ah well.

lumberjim 01-26-2004 11:00 AM

I'd read it. Jinx would too. She administers a yahoo mommy forum like the one you mentioned, but she let's people fight things out. I'm sure she'd have lots to add to it.

jinx 01-26-2004 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by lumberjim
I'd read it. Jinx would too. She administers a yahoo mommy forum like the one you mentioned, but she let's people fight things out. I'm sure she'd have lots to add to it.
Or maybe you could just add to it for me?

russotto 01-26-2004 12:20 PM

Can this forum be blocked from the "Search for New Topics"? Removed from a user's list entirely?

lumberjim 01-26-2004 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by jinx


Or maybe you could just add to it for me?

guh.....soooorrrryy! didn;t mean to liose my head.

juju 01-26-2004 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by russotto
Can this forum be blocked from the "Search for New Topics"? Removed from a user's list entirely?
That would be a neat feature. I don't think the default vBulletin supports it, otherwise we'd already have that ability. Maybe there is an add-on module somewhere for it?

Undertoad 01-26-2004 01:03 PM

It's possible to block any given forum from "view new messages"... but if blocked, it's blocked for everybody.

I didn't see a quick way to get past this problem.

They are coming out with a vbulletin 3, which has more features but it seems to have been in beta for years now.

juju 01-26-2004 01:17 PM

There are certain forums I never read, such as Cities, Sports, and Food and Drink. I still use the "View new messages" feature exclusively. I just look to see what forum the thread was posted in before I click on it.

elSicomoro 01-26-2004 06:28 PM

Rho, being the childfree militant, thinks that a childfree forum should be created, but we already have that (more or less) in the Manifestos.

If enough people are interested in a parenting forum, then have at it...more people for me to poke fun at. :)

Undertoad 01-26-2004 07:23 PM

The problem is that the main area should be full of general topics that can appeal to anyone (IMO).

The topics in the main area are important, because people decide whether it's something interesting based on what forums they see. This is how they try to figure out who we are and whether we appeal to them as a group.

So our user base would swing towards fresh parents from here on out, and I think some of us would be uncomfortable with that.

elSicomoro 01-26-2004 07:43 PM

I dunno about that, UT. There are plenty of places out there that try to court parents. We're just a drop in the ocean.

Of course, Juju could always use his old place as the starting point for such a forum, since he's not using it at this point...

xoxoxoBruce 01-26-2004 08:12 PM

And post partum mothers are easy marks.:)

Skunks 01-27-2004 12:58 AM

Perhaps it could be a more general forum than "parents". I mean, I'd love a chance to gripe about all the silly people I see with children. But I'm not sure a whole forum is necessary.

Perhaps it could be called, "Pediatrics and Pets". There're a lot of dog lovers here, right?

Griff 01-27-2004 06:25 AM

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Originally posted by sycamore

Of course, Juju could always use his old place as the starting point for such a forum, since he's not using it at this point...

Good idea really, just bury it under juju. He could mention it in his subheading. To me, its like the gaming stuff under entertainment, a few folks are gonna be passionate about it but the cellar hasn't become a gaming forum. We want to maintain our broad appeal so we keep getting interesting folks who want to participate widely.

elSicomoro 01-27-2004 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Skunks
Perhaps it could be a more general forum than "parents". I mean, I'd love a chance to gripe about all the silly people I see with children. But I'm not sure a whole forum is necessary.
I'll set up a new thread in the Manifestos for such gripes.

SteveDallas 01-27-2004 10:37 AM

In my opinion, the organization of threads into different topics and forums has always been highly informal. Topic drift and thread hijacking have always been facts of life in The Cellar. The lack of a parenting forum will not prevent those who are parents from raising any issues they have that they feel will benefit from airing here. The presence of a parenting forum would not attract new folks in large numbers, and anyone it did attract would probably be somebody who fit in with the rest of the place.

(Although I do wonder if the very fact that this is coming up means we have an older membership than we did back in the early 90s? I mean, obviously, those of us who were around then are now older. But is the Cellar population as a whole older?)

lumberjim 01-27-2004 11:34 AM

I've only been around for 3 months actively, and my perception is that people are generally 25+ yrs old...the younguns seem to either lose interest, or get flamed out. the things we discuss are generally more mature topics, and when someone posts a bubblegum thread, it gets met with large doses of sarcasm and april references.

a parenting forum might bring more people that are initially interested in child rearing tips and topics, but they would also share many similar life experiences as the like aged child free members. I say it can't hurt, so why not?

it's not NEEDED, but if more members are a desired result, it could only be a positive. IMO. I mean, who'd leave the cellar just because it included a forum that didn't interest them?

Undertoad 01-27-2004 11:43 AM

Does someone want to put it up for a vote?

elSicomoro 01-27-2004 11:47 AM

Voting shall now commence.

juju 01-27-2004 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
So our user base would swing towards fresh parents from here on out, and I think some of us would be uncomfortable with that.
Why? Could you further explain this reasoning? Just under one month ago, you said:
Quote:

I've always thought that the Cellar would be a nice thing for new parents in any case. Because it allows you to be social, but on any schedule you prefer, 24 hours, and it's always willing to wait through any distractions.
The implication seems to be that new parents would not have anything in common with Cellarites, which is completely ridiculous.

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
Of course, Juju could always use his old place as the starting point for such a forum, since he's not using it at this point...
I don't want to carry a forum all by myself. That's too much work. So if there is no interest in it, then so be it.

Undertoad 01-27-2004 03:09 PM

I do think it makes sense as a social approach in one's life. Be social 24x7 on your own terms; put a conversation on hold for a half day if you like; alt-tab to your workplace, or get up for nappy-change, nobody gets pissed at you for ignoring them.

I just don't think we should filter for any particular category of people.

xoxoxoBruce 01-27-2004 08:22 PM

WTF. Throw it up and it will sink or swim. Nobody is forced to participate in it.:)

darclauz 01-28-2004 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrianR
you may be wrong there. Those of us with no children always seem to know best how others should raise them.

That's just my observation.

That said, I tend to dislike children, although I'm full of advice on what you should be doing with them.

Brian

for me, it's teenage girls. i hate teenage girls.

darclauz 01-28-2004 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
And post partum mothers are easy marks.:)
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:D :D :D :D :D

ladysycamore 01-28-2004 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
Rho, being the childfree militant, thinks that a childfree forum should be created, but we already have that (more or less) in the Manifestos.

If enough people are interested in a parenting forum, then have at it...more people for me to poke fun at. :)

I wouldn't say "militant" but just for the sake of equality, because not everyone here has kids, likes kids, wants kids, etc.

Sure, we don't have to read that forum, but that's just my two cents.


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