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lumberjim 04-19-2004 04:34 PM

?Administrative Professionals? Day is Wednesday
 
is this the same day that used to be called "Secretary's Day"

what the hell is so un'PC about the word "secretary"?

it's not like they call it "Toots's day or Hun's day"

Who the hell do these "Administrative Professionals" think they're fooling. Do they have a degree in Administrative Professionaling?

I know this isn't news.

I just think it's stupid


why don;t we all come up with more high fallootin' names for our own jobs?

those of us that have them.

the rest of you can think of PC ways to describe eating bon-bons on the couch and watching soaps all day.

i will now be know as an "Investment Protection Specialist / Automotive Budgetary Analyst"

Beestie 04-19-2004 04:42 PM

I think stewardesses started this stuff.

"Flight attendants" my ear; what the hell does serving coffee or cueing up a movie have to do with flying the plane?

OnyxCougar 04-19-2004 04:54 PM

No, it's calledOffice Systems Technology now.

ladysycamore 04-19-2004 05:39 PM

Re: ?Administrative Professionals? Day is Wednesday
 
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Originally posted by lumberjim
is this the same day that used to be called "Secretary's Day"

what the hell is so un'PC about the word "secretary"?


Nothing really. I think that they found the phrase "Adminstative Professionals" more pleasing. Is it so "bad" that they would like to be known as such?

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Who the hell do these "Administrative Professionals" think they're fooling. Do they have a degree in Administrative Professionaling?
Actually, it IS possible to have a degree in Applied and Information Technology. Although, when I was going to college, it was just Information Technology.

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why don;t we all come up with more high fallootin' names for our own jobs?
Oh, you mean like when I put the word "Specialist" after the phrase "Data Entry" so then it would look like "Data Entry Specialist" on my resume? Ah, but it looks SOOO much more professional than just "typist". No stupid ass "PC" reason necessary. :mad:

*"PC" is being wayyy overused nowadays...* :rolleyes:

lumberjim 04-19-2004 05:44 PM

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Actually, it IS possible to have a degree in Applied and Information Technology. Although, when I was going to college, it was just Information Technology.
my point exactly. if they had this degree, would they be answering phones and doing data entry for $9/hr?

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Is it so "bad" that they would like to be known as such?
yes! it puts an undue burden on everyone else that has to remember the bullshit title of the week.

Clodfobble 04-19-2004 06:05 PM

I think one of the reasons the term "Administrative Professional" came about was to differentiate between their duties and those of a "Receptionist," since they both would be called Secretaries under the old system.

My friend is an Administrative Assistant at her company, and her job duties are essenially one step below HR Director. She's not anyone's secretary in any sense of the word, she's not even an assistant to the HR Director since they have different tasks.

I think the difference is anything with "Administrative" in it means HR, while anything with "Operations" in it means "used-to-be-called-secretary."

lumberjim 04-19-2004 06:07 PM

i see. so does your freind get flowers on Administrative Profesionals Day?

this is a racket perpetrated on us by the greeting card and flower industries isn;t it?

Clodfobble 04-19-2004 06:10 PM

Nah. She'd be offended that someone would be getting her something for Secretary's Day. :)

And yes, yes it is. It's all such a freaking waste--who wouldn't rather get a call or letter from someone instead of some insipid card?

lumberjim 04-19-2004 06:13 PM

yeah, I'm nice to our office staff all year round. I rub their backs, i pat their bottoms when they do a good job, and i let them admire my ripling muscles whenever they want to. and if I should happen to forget to observe AP day, i feel like a jerk.





shut up, jinx, i was kidding....and they're old!

Dagney 04-19-2004 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by lumberjim
if they had this degree, would they be answering phones and doing data entry for $9/hr?
Actually, some of us have that degree and do a whole hell of a lot more for not much more than that $9/hr quote.

Because we're afraid if we don't, someone in India will do it for us.

elSicomoro 04-19-2004 07:48 PM

You bitches better send me some flowers or I'll be hella pissed.

PM me for my work address. :)

lumberjim 04-19-2004 07:52 PM

Oh man, i wish i had extra cash. and i already have your work address....such a shame. i'd pay to see the looks you'd get.

elSicomoro 04-19-2004 07:58 PM

Would you sign it, "All my love, Jimbo"?

Troubleshooter 04-19-2004 08:07 PM

PC pisses me off.

Stewardess seem to frget that there were stewards as well.

There's nothing wrong with egalitarianism as long as it isn't just obfuscation in disguise.

Elspode 04-19-2004 10:47 PM

I don't care what it is called, I'm going to try and hose my boss out of lunch on the basis that it exists at all.

ladysycamore 04-20-2004 08:38 AM

quote:Actually, it IS possible to have a degree in Applied and Information Technology. Although, when I was going to college, it was just Information Technology.

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my point exactly. if they had this degree, would they be answering phones and doing data entry for $9/hr?
In today's employment climate...yeah.

quote:Is it so "bad" that they would like to be known as such?

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yes! it puts an undue burden on everyone else that has to remember the bullshit title of the week.
{johnmcenroe}"You can NOT be serious!!!!"{/johnmcenroe}

lumberjim 04-20-2004 08:52 AM

i'm afraid i am serious. "undue burden" was a little over the top, i admit, but i exaggerate to make the point. I gotta figure that most receptionists refer to themselves as receptionists, admin asst's as admin asst's, etc. I guess it's a term they use to group all of these types of support staff under one label.

my main issue is with the renaming of all of the jobs, and the idea of the thread was to hear what everyone would like to be known as. it seems that everyone missed that, and is focused on my dumbass resistance to this one term.

secretaries can call themselves "grand poobahs of clerical science" for all I care. i'm gonna call them secretaries, though.

oh, and i still call black people black. unless they actually moved here from Africa, in which case i will call them "African Americans"

i'm White. not European American.

ladysycamore 04-20-2004 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by lumberjim
i'm afraid i am serious. "undue burden" was a little over the top, i admit, but i exaggerate to make the point. I gotta figure that most receptionists refer to themselves as receptionists, admin asst's as admin asst's, etc. I guess it's a term they use to group all of these types of support staff under one label.
Now see? That's a thought. I guess by me working in various office environs in an admin capacity for roughly 17 years makes me a bit closer to the subject, so I'm going to be more "fiesty" about it (hell, I've been fiesty for the last 2 days, so maybe you just caught me at a bad time...oh well).

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my main issue is with the renaming of all of the jobs, and the idea of the thread was to hear what everyone would like to be known as. it seems that everyone missed that, and is focused on my dumbass resistance to this one term.
I suppose you take that chance if you are not clear on your intentions, and yeah, we know how you are and yadda yadda, but still...

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secretaries can call themselves "grand poobahs of clerical science" for all I care. i'm gonna call them secretaries, though.
Ok then: if no one gives you shit about it, then keep on keeping on.

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oh, and i still call black people black. unless they actually moved here from Africa, in which case i will call them "African Americans"

i'm White. not European American.
Let's...not go there, shall we? ;)

lumberjim 04-20-2004 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by ladysycamore


Let's...not go there, shall we? ;)

yeah, Ok. but only because i think we've had this argument before on here. or something

jinx 04-20-2004 09:54 AM

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You don't even call them secretaries do you Jim..... aren't they just "the girls in the office"? Did you buy them Whitman's samplers?

lumberjim 04-20-2004 10:09 AM

hey! who's side are you on?!

they call themselves "the girls"

but that's just cuz every other department is all men.

Troubleshooter 04-20-2004 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by lumberjim


yeah, Ok. but only because i think we've had this argument before on here. or something

I keep fucking with a guy I work with about this. He's from South Africa. Does that qualify him as a minority?

SteveDallas 04-20-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by jinx
You don't even call them secretaries do you Jim..... aren't they just "the girls in the office"? Did you buy them Whitman's samplers?
I thought it was panties.

Oh, wait, that's in Japan. Never mind.

Elspode 04-20-2004 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by SteveDallas

I thought it was panties.

Whitman's makes panties now? Mmmm....chocolate panties.


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