Senior Prank?
 

Found this today....

So is this just a senior prank or a precursor to other crimes? Assault? Rape? How would you punish them, if at all?

I think you would really have to get at the impetus for this action. Did they like the teacher and were just playing around or was this more revenge motivated? Probably only the teacher could answer that question.

The teacher should be jailed, and so should anyone else who can't take a damned joke.

Is the teacher particularly hairy?

First duct tape then before you know it, Andy, these kids'll be up in Mt. Pilot stealing newspapers out of vending machines! We have GOT to start nipping these things in the bud!

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I can't put my finger on precisely why, but Eric Zahnd's quote just creeps me out.

As others have mentioned, it depends entirely on intent and context.

Radar is wrong (once again.)

If there was a history of problems between the students and the teacher, the students were probably trying to settle an old score under the guise of a prank. That would be assault, and jail is justified.

If the students had no history of problems with the teacher, and they were approaching the teacher in a lighthearted friendly manner, I would say it falls in the unfortunate prank category. It's disrespectful, but it's not worthy of a criminal record and time in jail. Suspension would be appropriate in this case.

The teacher's point of view is critical here. We can only speculate.



Another news source

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According to this article, one of the students said he wanted to "mess" with the teacher. Whatever that means.

I have yet to be proven wrong on any subject in this forum and I have yet to lose a single debate. But that's not really something to brag about since I'm mostly dealing mainly with blithering idiots. (Jaguar, glatt, Onyx, wolf, marichiko, ladysycamore, etc.)

Tell me again. What is that planet you live on?

Earth. You should visit some time.

Come on y'all! Lets tape Radar! He can take a joke!:)

Today's Kool-Aid flavor is cherry.

Careful. I might pull a joke in return. Perhaps I'd seal your car up and fill it with water or park it on the roof of your building.

Liar.

No, you are a liar, and a fool. The link you gave doesn't show me to be proven wrong you pathetic little weasel.

It does show that you were proven wrong, but go ahead...have some more cherry Kool-Aid...

No it doesn't. It shows no such thing you lying bastard.

No thanks, Radar. I don't like cherry Kool-Aid.

No, I genuinely believe you to be a blithering idiot.

Ooo, ooo! You forgot me! We don't discuss much in the same threads but I'm sure you've noticed I'm a blithering idiot?

Ya fucking dork.

Don't worry, Blue...most of us know that you're a blithering idiot. :)

Thanks...I hate being excluded, especially when I so obviously belong.

Well, one solution to this problem is for judges to give the kids a choice between jail and the military.

After all, there's no place better to teach someone not to attempt to forcibly restrain and humiliate an unarmed man than the Army.

Maybe it's that pious power trip that procecutors, cops and teachers pull when they're making much ado about nothing.:rolleyes:

That could very well be it.

I like Radar. He's not afraid to be controversial, arrogant or downright rude, and often hits the nail on the head in the most annoying way possible. Respect.

Sure, but he's wrong this time. The teacher should not be jailed. Radar is insane if he really believes that.

Does he really believe that? Or is that what's generally taken to be humorous exaggeration...?

The punishment has to be largely related to intent, really. And how do you determine that?

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LN - please refer to the group sex thread. You might find some tips.

Hahahah. Class in a Glass Catwoman.

Porn prank in GA.

Of course, we are left trying to figure out what constitutes 'hard-core pornography' in Chamblee, Georgia.

Britney Spears? The Learning Channel?

Anyone that believes this is a prank is a twit. Being incapacitated is scary and has no humor at all. This is bullying of the worst sort.

Anyone who believes it's anything other than a prank or that it's "scary" is an asshole who can't take a joke. Being tied up IS a joke and doesn't harm anyone. Being locked up for days is not a joke, but for a little while at a shool, give me a fucking break!

These are the same kind of retards who had a 6 year old boy kicked out of school for sexual harassment when he kissed a 6 year old girl or had a kid thrown out of high school for taking aspirin because their "no tolerance" drug policy, etc.

It's a prank! Get over it, and get over yourselves. If you claim this isn't a prank, you need to pull your head out of your ass immediately.

I am squarely in Radar's corner on this one. So many people are so self-important these days that anyone who offends them or messes with them has to do twenty years of hard time.

And I'm not sure the teacher is the Nancy-boy, either. From reading the story, it looks to me that a deputy is the one who decided to make an issue of it.

In this case they are talking about the possibility of 15 days in prison.

Of course, if convicted, this would be the "first strike" for these kids. The next mistake would put them in prison for life.

Not it is not a joke. Anytime anyone is forced against their will, it is definately not a joke.

You are probably the sort of guy who gave "swirlies" in high school weren't you? Well, what goes around, comes around, and some day you will get yours.

Oh, and Radar? Learn to read. I never advocated jail time for these youths. But they sure do need discipline of some sort.

The only discipline they should get is less than a slap on the wrist. The extent of it should be someone saying, "Now boys! That's not nice."

And I've taken my share of pranks and dished them out. I've had my pants yanked off by a whole boyscout troop and had them pulled up a flag pole. I've picked up freshmen and dropped them butt first in trashcans, etc.

Get over it. Sheese! If you're so uptight that you dwell on something so trivial, you need to seek professional help.

You know for someone who spouts as much as you do about the constitution, you don't seem to care about the rights of that teacher.

this may not surprise some of you, but I've done that too. poor kid. in retrospect, i feel like a dick for doing it, but it was hysterical at the time. It took him 5 minutes of rocking back and forth to finally tip the 50 gallon drum over in order to get out. I think i was in 8th grade at the time. boys WILL be boys.

This is appropriate. You were a dick for doing it. This kind of thing is a power trip. It also indicates, I think, a lack of empathy for others.

"Boys will be boys."

Yeah, I realize stuff like this happens. That doesn't make it right.

IT'S TRUE. I was a dick. I used to be a bit of a bully in jr high. i've mellowed since. i havent been in an actual fight since i was 12 yrs old.

YOU WERE THE KID WHO BEAT ME UP IN SIXTH GRADE!!!

Fuck you man!!! How have you redeemed your self!!!

i have redeemed myself. I saved several dorks from certain beatings in high school. One kid named Forest in particular. A kid named sean that was all covered in muscle was going to beat him up for being prissy. i had but to ask him nicely not to as a favor to me. Forest was very grateful. Then, Irony took over. several years later, my girlfriend in college cheated on me with Forest.

feel better?

Phew! That was close!

Couln't see the wood for the forest, huh.:)
Make UT feel better, sell him some speakers.

nice memory:thumb:

once, my boss filled a coworkers car up to the door handles with sawdust. It was in retaliation for the giant red cock and balls he had drawn on the roof of my boss's van in chalk powder. ah, fun times, man. fun times.

cougar, keep that kind of thing in the group sex thread where it belongs.

and you're right. I know nothing about this, but I think that on it's face, it's wrong. The fact that the teacher escaped, however, goes to the intent of the boys. If they REALLY wanted this guy taped to the chair, he wouldn't have escaped. They let him up when they realized that it was a bad idea, and the teacher wasn't getting the joke. They shouldn't have done it. They should have known better. In the present clime, this kind of thing is unacceptable.

I'm betting that one of these kids has a father that wishes he never told his son about the time that they taped old mr so and so to his chair when THEY were in school. And a mother that is REALLY REALLY pissed off at her husband.

You learned that from Dave, didn't you.:haha:

Wrong, it's EXACTLY the same.

Well if you want to get technical about it, no person on earth has a right to touch another person for any reason without asking them, but it's done all the time. It's a bit crowded here.

I'll go with the timeless wisdom of "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke"

I'd love to go to Vietnam and tie up my wife. Let's go! And if I'm not one of the guys, I'm sure her cousins can do it. Someone you know (like your students) tying you up isn't the same as having someone you don't know tie you up.

Your so fucking stupid I bet you'd sue someone if they squirted you with a water pistol. I think when you fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down, one of them got stuck up your ass and it had a bug on it.

It's either a right or it's not. I don't remember any "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" amendment. Different people have different kinds of humor. Some have no sense of humor at all. That doesn't invalidate their rights.

When a person resorts to personal insult you know that 1) They're not really sure of their argument and 2) They're trying to get the upper hand by being hurtful. Which, when you think about it, shows why Radar identifies with the boys and not the teacher.

OC was drawing an analogy. The fact that two people commented negatively on it just goes to show that it is not funny when it happens to you and yours.

P.S. If you're going to call someone stupid, you really ought to proofread before you post.

Sigh, if only life were that simple.:blunt:

Wrong Mr. False dichotomy. There are more than just rights and non-rights. There are priviledges, and traditions, and customs. There is a sailors tradition in the U.S. Navy that is more than 300 years old (Since before there was a U.S. Navy). Everyone who has previously sailed across the International dateline is called an "honorable shell back" and those who haven't are called "pollywogs". When you cross the International dateline the shell backs drag all the pollywogs (including officers) onto the deck of the ship, beat them with rubber hoses, make them crawl through rotten and disgusting trash, make them take an olive/cherry out of a fat guys belly button with grease and cajun pepper and stuff all over his belly so it gets in your eyes, etc. and otherwise torture you for awhile. It's a right of passage and everyone does it.

A dickhead like you would try to bring people up on charges. Do they have a right to do this? No. Is it expected? Yes. Will you get very far if you try to complain about it? No. Will you have any friends if you try to make a stink about it? Hell No. Everyone will know you as the asshole you are.

Our rights don't come from amendments. Nice try though. Nobody said pulling pranks on others was a "right". But it is a right of passage. And if you're such an asshole that you call the cops when someone pulls a harmless prank on you (Yes this is a harmless prank and it's a funny one at that), than you're the one with the problem, not the people joking with you.

You can count yourself as stupid too buddy. I'd be MORE than happy to compare my intellect to yours any time. Although it's sort of comparing a speed bump (you) to Mt Everest (me....well, maybe not Everest, but at least Mt Wilson)