Poll - To Eat Meat, or Not to Eat Meat?
 

Okay, I need the data in order to make my assumptions, wild-assed claims, and off-the-cuff generalizations accurate enough to actually use in future debates, so please vote.

Sorry Ep.

"only worthy of....."

Patience, boy, patience. I'm old and slow.

Thanks but I'll just stay away from this subject from now on. Have fun.

I don't really like eating things with faces, but fish is okay.

Hmm. I fall into this catagory, although it has nothing to do wth "faces" and more to do with what I consider healthy. Red meat almost never happens, chicken rarely, fish quite frequently.

Now, doggone it...I'm trying to back up my generalization. YOU are a member of this board now, and you should vote your conscience. I could be wrong, and most people here might turn out to be vegetarians or vegans.

Actually, I'd kind of like to find out that this was true. I always thought of most of these people as being sort of carnivorous...cannibalistic, even.

This is a healthier eating outlook, and I applaud your choice. I used to have willpower. Then they invented stuffed crust pizza, and I was a goner.

We frequently have fresh salmon on the grille at our place. MMmmmmm....

You didn't vote, though.

cannibalistic, even.

The hell? What are you getting at?

Then they invented stuffed crust pizza, and I was a goner.

I still have pizza, just not with meat. Yeah, sounds boring, but I'm a total sucker for a local place that makes one with artichoke, garlic, and cheese. And yes, its tasty.

I used to have willpower.

This is what I find so odd about my recent change in eating meat -- I don't have much of an urge to eat it, anymore. I started eating at places that serve some outstanding veggie and fish stuff and, after some weeks of it, the idea of eating a huge, greasy burger seemed really unappetizing. In fact, anything with large amounts of visible fat seems really disgusting. I still go for a loaded up chili dog now and then, but we're talking once every six months or less. And BBQ has to happen at least once a year. Outside of that, I'm very content to avoid the stuff.

Although having fish as a primary source of protien just isn't nice on the wallet, I have to say. The moment I become broke, again, this is all very likely to change. Chicken happens specifically or money reasons, along with tofu although I only like the kind I get at the French-Vietnamese place up the street, the little Japanese place in town, etc. Home cooked stuff is a lot more difficult in terms of taste. Bleh!

Addition: you can be, by the way, a vegetarian and still eat really unhealthy, just as you can eat meat and continue to eat healthy. I know some people who eat no meat at all and could stand to lose 10, 20, or 60 pounds.

Sort of a 'we eat our own' backhanded reference.

Obviously, my attempts at humor here lately are falling pretty damn short. I think I'll slink back into a hole and contemplate my relationship with my fellow beings for a little while.

Obviously, my attempts at humor here lately are falling pretty damn short. I think I'll slink back into a hole and contemplate my relationship with my fellow beings for a little while.

:confused:

Umm... I just didn't understand. Maybe I'm missing some previous posts or something. No harm intended.

But I am hungy, now.

None taken. I think I've lost my humor knack. It probably rolled under the desk here somewhere.

I'VE thought all your posts were funny today, Els.

Of course we do but only the dead ones, after all we're not savages. :)

once upon a time i was in a band that regularly played shows inhabited by straighte-edge vegans. we as a band always set up part of our product booth in the name of promoting dead animal and beer consumption. it used to make those kids damn near sick watching us drink beer and chew on meat.
now pass the beer steak. :D

A friend of mine had been vegetarian since around the age of 11, and simultaneously had a very strained relationship with his father, whom he had nothing in common with. His father told him he would pay for college if my friend would eat an entire steak--Fear Factor rules; no puking halfway through or it doesn't count. Anyway, my friend did it. Said he had pretty violent gas afterwards, but nothing unbearable.

Well, hell...I hope he gassed his dad a good one. Serves him right for making the poor guy eat something he didn't want. What a prick.

I seem to go through phases of vegetarianism. The idea of eating meat just isnt appealing for months on end and then suddenly I'll get a mad craving for a BK burger or one of my ex's super chillis....usually after drinking beer.

In a way I think the best thing to do if one wants to help animals is in fact to eat meat but to insist on only eating meat which comes from humanely farmed animals. If people who want to help animals stop eating meat altogether thne they lose their economic muscle. If they arent going to eat meat at all then they are no longer part of the market forces which drive farming methods. If one only eats meat which comes from assured farming methods then one is throwing one's consumer weight behind those methods. The more of us who insist on those methods for the meat we eat thne the more sense it makes economically speaking, for food producers to maintain high standards rather than using the unspeakable methods many currently employ ( such as battery farming)

Unfortunately what seems to drive the industry towards cheaper and less humane methods of farming seems to be the ready made meals we eat rather than the cuts of meat we buy. When food manufacturers make ready meals they generally choose cheaper meat which often comes from battery farmed sources.

I have no problem with someone not eating meat. I have a problem with vegans who insist that the whole world should be just like them. My niece is a vegan, and she's quite about it. But she has this friend who was literally screaming at me at Thanksgiving that I was the cause of all the worlds problems, like Columbine, 9/11, and the like. All because I ate meat. I politely told this idiot to go fuck herself, that 2 mentally unstable fuckheads shot up Columbine, and the last time I checked, I wasn't an Arab terrorist. But, of course, I didn't know what I was talking about, according to this shitwit. She threw the turkey at me. Yup. You read that right. Little Miss Vegan launched a dead bird at me. Now, I have been uninvited to anything at the inlaws. Good. Hated them anyway. Bunch of assholes. The kicker is that my nieces "friend" is invited back anytime. And I'm the one who gets the cleaning bill for the rug. Fuck 'em. I ain't paying shit.

Meat eating is great, may I have some more please?

Nuff said.

I chose the second choice "I only eat meat that I feel is worthy of my consumption." For me it's about the safety of beef ever since mad cow disease was found in the food supply. I love beef, but won't eat it until it's safe again.

I'm surprised that more people didn't choose this option. Technically speaking, if you answer based on your actions instead of your attitudes, I think everyone would choose this second option. After all, you don't eat dead squirrel found in the middle of the road. You find it to be not worthy of your consumption. If you pick and choose which meats you will eat, then you fall in the second category.

She threw the turkey at me.

:eek2:

Not the turkey! This is why I'm all for Thanksgiving to remain as a visit with my immediate family and no one else.

I haven't run across the preachy vegans, yet, but I was once subject to a yoga/stress-reduction class that required you eat a vegan diet for two weeks. No meat, no fish, no eggs, no alcohol, and no caffiene. I think we might have been allowed cheese and milk, so it might have been semi-vegan, and the lack of stimulants and depressants was something even vegans aren't foolish enough to attempt. So while some people find it amazing that I don't eat red meat, there is no way I could describe to you the pain of not being permitted to eat any animal products at all! My body was so displeased with the diet after a mere three days that I felt lethargic and depressed all the time. Getting up in the morning became impossible and there was no energy to be found for doing anything active. I even attempted to correct by cheating and having coffee again, but it was no use. After some thought, I figured I wasn't getting enough protien or enough fat in my diet, I think, despite heavy doses of peanut butter, tofu, etc. I made some adjustments based on some readings but it wasn't working and seven days into the ordeal I gave up. The biggest sushi dinner I've ever purchased, downed with plenty of beer, proved to be an excellent dinner to cheat with followed by a breakfast of fried eggs and hashbrowns covered in steaming chili and a never-ending cup of coffee. Following that, my nap was composed of some of the deepest sleep I've ever known and awoke to find myself feeling normal, again.

The class? I skipped the final session. What was on the plate in front of me that night? A bliss-enducing patty melt from Steak n' Shake. Oh, baby!

Waffle House perhaps?

No one in their right mind would do that, it's just common sense. There are people who do eat certain kinds of roadkill though. As long as it's not ground into the pavement or mashed and not starting to decay. Take a deer that's been hit...if you get to it fast enough, the worst you'll need to worry about is possibly broken bone fragments and those can be picked out. Yes, you could have ruptured internal organs but there's plenty of meat elsewhere on the animal that wouldn't be directly affected by, say, a leaking gallbladder or intestine.

All this isn't to say that *I'D* eat it. But I'm not that picky about meat, regardless of the animal it comes from. I've eaten gator, buffalo, deer, squirrel, all kinds of fish (that's meat too!), rabbit, all kinds of bird and of course the three meat staples, beef, pork and chicken. And I'm not as worried about eating beef, even with the mad cow thing, mainly because the beef I eat comes in no contact with the part of the cow that's infected by the mad cow disease. It doesn't get into the muscle. I can't think of a way for a flank steak to come in contact with brain or spinal fluid.

Waffle House perhaps?

You know it. :yum:

I can't think of a way for a flank steak to come in contact with brain or spinal fluid.

I thought it was because they've been feeding cows brain and spinal material and that it didn't matter if the cut of meat touched it.

...not that a flank steak couldn't. You ever see how a slaughterhouse is run?

Sure have. I've seen how hotdogs are made too.

I admit that I was nitpicking about the various categories, but aside from that, I think you are more adventuresome than most people in what type of meat you eat. I've had a bunch of weird stuff too, but still put myself in the second category. Frogs legs, rattlesnake, snails, deer, rabbit, ostritch. But I still am picky about what meat I'll eat.

Grossest meat I ever ate was tongue soup in Germany. I was expecting chunks of tongue in a thick soup with vegetables and stuff. What I got was a bowl of thin clear broth with a big whole tongue sitting in it staring at me. The part that grossed me out was that as I cut off peices, and put them in my mouth, I could feel the taste buds of the cow rubbing against my own taste buds. Kind of felt like I was licking a cow's tongue. And I was, basically. I had eaten tongue before, sliced on a sandwich, and it was good that way, but I wouldn't recommend the tongue soup in the student cafeteria at Albert Ludwigs University. I finished it though.

That is undoubtedly the grossest thing ever. I can't believe you ate that...I would've :vomit:

Indeed...just the texture of it would put me off. You've gone further than I have; while I've eaten all kinds of critters, the only animal parts I've eaten were intestine and tripe. Both only once, and both never again. :sick:

well... I also go thru bouts of vegetenarism, sometimes meat just doesn't sound good. and Tofu can be a culinary challenge :)

on a side note on Vegans. I respect their opinions (I just don't share them) BUT! the thing that pisses me off is when they use rubber or plastic products.. after all they are made from petrolium products and petrolium is made out of dinosaurs... 'nuff said?

HOW TO EAT BEEF TONGUE


Step 1) Remove outer skin on tongue.
Step 2) Slice meat inside across the grain.
Step 3) Enjoy!

shakes head at some people's naivete at the dinnertable.

Wow. :vomitblu:

Dear Miss Manners,

If, at a fancy dinner, one accidentally ingests a bit of the 'outer skin' of beef tongue and is distressed to find the taste buds rubbing alarmingly against one's own, is it acceptable to discreetly remove the offensive flesh? And what about those finger bowls?

-Perplexed Reader

Dear 99,

When a diner encounters some texturally unsavory portion of animal organs, it is usually considered socially correct to violently shove one's chair backwards before leaping upon the tabletop. You should then vigorously expectorate the offending morsel in the direction of the maitre'd, and then leap down from your table.

Next, you should quickly snatch the wine glass from the lips of an adjacent restaurant patron and swish your mouth out. Take particular care to use much obvious ballooning and sucking in of the cheeks while you do so. Then, you must once again expectorate vigorously in the direction of the maitre'd (these twin expectorations let him know in a nonverbal fashion that you are having a disagreeable dining experience). Finally, pull the tablecloth out from under the dishes of your dining neighbor, and wipe your face and tongue.

While this may seem unusual to the less cultured American diners, I assure you it is standard practice in the more posh French restaurants, where they are more prone to eating such disgusting things in the first place.

Cordially yours,
Miss Manners

right now--this second? I could so totally go for a filet mignon (med. rare--too bad all you naysayers) and hash browns (real ones) with sour cream. Oh, yeah, and a salad with real blue cheese, please. And a Singapore Sling (even though it is girly)

Careful you don't poke yourself in the eye with the little paper umbrella.

Meat is neat,
It's what I eat!
I'll cook a treat,
Apply the heat,
Have a seat
and eat some meat!

Dr. Suess ain't got nothin on me.

Actually, Food rules. Food is awesome. It's what's for dinner.