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Undertoad 12-07-2004 11:27 AM

12/7/2004: 2004 Turner Prize winner
 
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Congrats to Jeremy Deller, pictured. He's the winner of the 2004 Turner Prize for art, for his work "The History of the World", also pictured.

warch 12-07-2004 11:33 AM

You like that brass bands foci, dont cha? It all makes sense.;)

Undertoad 12-07-2004 11:42 AM

I do I do!

I wish we had a legend to it, and a better shot which shows the entire thing.

Undertoad 12-07-2004 11:49 AM

Well it turns out that the official caption has let us down as usual. It's cruelly inaccurate. His prize is actually for a piece called Memory Bucket. The History of the World is an earlier work, which he explains here.

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I’ve been asked to talk about The History of the World which is the big wall drawing in front of you. There’s a quote by Lenin which is "everything is connected to everything else" and that could almost be the title of this work cos it’s how my brain works in a lot of ways how I try to connect things up, and it’s how I work as an artist in that respect.

I did a work called Acid Brass which was when I got a brass band to play Acid House music. And this diagram explains it in the way that I thought that brass bands and Acid House music actually have a lot in common even though on the face of it they have nothing in common whatsoever. They’re both these forms of folk and popular music, they’re both very strong, had a very strong following in the north of England, or still do. And also they have a connection in the middle with trade unions, with the media hysteria that surrounded Acid House music and drug culture, and also with the miners’ strike. So they meet in the middle really with civil unrest as you can see.

I have to say that it was one of the most pleasant experiences as an artist to work with a brass band, to hang out with those guys and to go to the concerts with them which were just great social occasions. And that’s something that I try to bring out in my work: a sense of enjoyment of what I do.

Troubleshooter 12-07-2004 11:49 AM

I wonder how much of my tax money went to pay for that?

Thanks NEA!

jaguar 12-07-2004 11:51 AM

Never before did I see the link between warehouse free parties and privitization, the tories should capitalise on this, there's an entire generation of arts students waiting to be converted.

garnet 12-07-2004 12:01 PM

I like it! Even if you sit back and look at it without paying attention to the words, it makes a really cool visual image. :thumbsup:

glatt 12-07-2004 12:02 PM

Looks kind of like something you might see in Famiy Circus

Cyber Wolf 12-07-2004 12:05 PM

I'm actually more interested in hearing that brass band playing acid house, seeing how I do enjoy both the sound of brass bands and acid house. Do any of those links go to a recording or sampling of that?

jaguar 12-07-2004 12:19 PM

Quote:

I'm actually more interested in hearing that brass band playing acid house, seeing how I do enjoy both the sound of brass bands and acid house. Do any of those links go to a recording or sampling of that?
Wait till you hear Acid Folk.
God I love London, take any two music groups, no matter how obscure and somewhere, in some little back alley there will be an acid fusion of the two. Probably an entire section.

TS - Turner Prize, Tate Modern - London, UK. - None - Was my tax money.

Troubleshooter 12-07-2004 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
TS - Rurner Prize, Tate Modern - London, UK. - None - Was my tax money.

Ah, thanks.

wolf 12-07-2004 12:46 PM

Artwork funded by American Taxpayers must include religious iconography and at least one bodily effluvient.

jaguar 12-07-2004 12:46 PM

Does anyone else not get the link between Drum'n Bass and melancholy? I can't think of anything more pumped. What does the dotted nature of the line mean? Or I'm looking at this in too much detail.

Troubleshooter 12-07-2004 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
Artwork funded by American Taxpayers must include religious iconography and at least one bodily effluvient.

Doesn't religious iconography already contain effluvium? :eyebrow:

Elspode 12-07-2004 01:55 PM

Acid House Country...Alabama 3 , they of the Sopranos theme, "Woke Up This Morning". One of my favorite bands, bizarre though the concept of Acid House Country may sound.

jaguar 12-07-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Acid House Country
awesome

Elspode 12-07-2004 04:20 PM

Aren't they just? In fact, I believe I'm going to go home and put on their CDs tonight (no pizza delivery! yay!)

warch 12-07-2004 04:32 PM

brass bands via melacholy leads roundhouse to kraftwerk. I find this interesting.

warch 12-07-2004 04:45 PM

I read a bit more about Jeremy and it seems he assumes the roll of collaborative director for his work. He won for a video thing done while working in San Antonio called Memory Bucket. (The San Antonio space gets local and fed funding so TS can be outraged afterall!) As I read it, Memory Bucket, kinda like Hitchens documentary on Texasization but with poetry, looks at politics and history and religion. Specifically focusing on the Branch Dividians as Bush supporters, or something. See, I need a diagram.

warch 12-07-2004 04:53 PM

Jonathon Jones of the Guardian is a Deller fan:
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The other artists here present product. Deller invites you into a conversation. He is, however, a real artist, a genuine and subtle exponent of Robert Rauschenberg's desire to act in the space between art and life. Deller is the only artist in this show, and one of the few of his generation, anywhere, who has a real vision. His work enriches lives - it has certainly enriched mine. I can't say that of anything else in this year's Turner prize.

warch 12-07-2004 05:17 PM

Oooh. One more tid bit then I'll leave youse alone. Artpace in San Antonio- I was just assuming they were hooked into fed funds as we all are, but sounds like they manage the bulk of their kick-ass residency program through their private foundation funding (via the contemporary art loving Pace picante sauce heiress).

elSicomoro 12-07-2004 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf
I'm actually more interested in hearing that brass band playing acid house, seeing how I do enjoy both the sound of brass bands and acid house. Do any of those links go to a recording or sampling of that?

Here you go...you'll have to register and use IE, but it's worth it.

chrisinhouston 12-08-2004 08:42 AM

Here's more, including audio and vidio links:
http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/turnerprize/deller.shtm

Seems he was awarded 25,000 pounds thanks to the support and sonsorship of Gordon's Gin

jaguar 12-08-2004 08:55 AM

I'm sure Gordon's gin has helped many artists along the way.


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