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Queen of the Ryche 06-08-2005 12:05 PM

Wanna See My New Chainsaw and Hockeymask?
 
So have we all heard about the guy trying to bring his bloody chainsaw, home-made sword, machete, and brass knuckles across the Canada-US border? They held him for 2 hours, then said, "Sorry, we'll have to keep your chainsaw, but come on in! Enjoy your stay!"

And I'm definitely not an Al Queda sympathizer, but basically if you read the Koran or praise Allah, you're a suspected terrorist until proven innocent?

My faith in our government's little Homeland Security procedures is getting very wobbly...............

Troubleshooter 06-08-2005 12:10 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050608/...JmBHNlYwN1cw--

Queen of the Ryche 06-08-2005 12:21 PM

Sorry if I saw that guy coming into my airport, I'd detain him on principle alone.......

glatt 06-08-2005 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche
My faith in our government's little Homeland Security procedures is getting very wobbly...............

I'm surprised you had any faith in the Feds at all.

911 was a big wake up call to me that our government is run by a bunch of incompetent morons. The whole duct tape hording, code orange alerting, knitting needle confiscating mentality since then proves (to me anyway) that it's the citizens who will save us from terrorism the next time, in spite of the government.

wolf 06-08-2005 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche
Sorry if I saw that guy coming into my airport, I'd detain him on principle alone.......

I'd shoot him on priciple alone.

Queen of the Ryche 06-08-2005 12:40 PM

And I am a self-professed democrat-to-repub-convert-after-college, but man! do our "leaders" look STOOPID right now! (Okay, I know - it's not the first time.) I am so ready to convert to Anarchy.

cowhead 06-08-2005 12:50 PM

heh.. anarchy won't work.. although it's a nice concept. in a perfect world it'd be great, the downside of course being human nature.

and yeah.. uh bloody chainsaw? not in my country, I mean texas chainsaw massacre was bad enough, no copy-cats!

and I agree with Glatt, our country is run by people who can't manage their own lives muchless the fate of millions. if something else happens it's going to be the populace that bails us out. the knee-jerk reaction of the government is as always a day late and a dollar short.

wolf 06-08-2005 12:54 PM

Anybody else hoping that this fine Canadian is just having some fun with the border guards? Performance art mebbe, kind of like the nest guy?

Queen of the Ryche 06-08-2005 12:56 PM

Nice one Wolf. And Cow, I know anarchy is impossible, just like "perfect" communism, which is ideal, except darned human-nature (i.e.greed) always gets in the way.......

glatt 06-08-2005 01:23 PM

So back to the chainsaw freak.

Why is this showing up in the news now? Everything in the news story happened in April.

wolf 06-08-2005 01:27 PM

I heard about him on Glenn Beck this morning.

wolf 06-08-2005 01:44 PM

Anybody else think he looks more CGI than human?

headsplice 06-08-2005 04:49 PM

I'm diggin on the the weird reverse rattail he's got going on. That and the intense stare make for some true beefcake.

xoxoxoBruce 06-08-2005 11:22 PM

I for one am glad they let him in. He is a naturalized American citizen. They were only speculating it was blood on the saw. He was not wanted by any law enforcement agency. They detained him for 2 hours checking.
Thank the border people for remembering this country is supposed to be a country of law. Looking wierd is not against the law.

He has been arrested in his hometown in MA for the suspected murder of a couple of people in Canada. Letting him go was the right thing to do. Confirming who he was and where he lived was the right thing to do also. ;)

lookout123 06-08-2005 11:45 PM

i have to say i agree with bruce. if he had been turned back or detained further, some civil rights attorneys would be screaming about our police state.

Undertoad 06-09-2005 12:08 AM

He only murdered Canadians... I say let him go!

lookout123 06-09-2005 12:20 AM

yeah, there heads already split in half anyway.

cowhead 06-09-2005 04:45 AM

I love you xoxobruce.. *sigh* you often say what I wanted too... but I wasn't quick enough on the draw (as it were).. a little more of this no drinking business and I'll give you a run for your money (although you have the market cornered)

Queen of the Ryche 06-09-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
yeah, there heads already split in half anyway.

"Blame Canada..............Blame Canada......."
Yes, Bruce, as always you are correct - the law was carried out correctly. I was merely trying to point out the extreme inaneness (is that a word? perhaps ineptitude is a better choice) of this whole Homeland Security thing, where you can cross the border trying to import a buttload of unusual weapons (if indeed it was blood on the chainsaw, I know - but couple it with the rest of his arsenal, and pretty fair conclusion that it too was a weapon or at least means of disposal), but if you go to the local Mosque, or check out an Iraqi website you're a suspected terrorist.
I so miss the days when kids could play in the streets without fear of being shot or abducted, when citizens genuienly cared about each other and their country, when freedom and peace and joy were unquestioned values and rights in the good old U S of A (for most people).
I wish Big Brother would go away and let me shoot my guns, smoke my cigarettes, discipline my kid, and go about my business.

wolf 06-09-2005 11:23 AM

You're right, we were separated at birth.

mrnoodle 06-09-2005 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche
I so miss the days when kids could play in the streets without fear of being shot or abducted, when citizens genuienly cared about each other and their country, when freedom and peace and joy were unquestioned values and rights in the good old U S of A (for most people).
I wish Big Brother would go away and let me shoot my guns, smoke my cigarettes, discipline my kid, and go about my business.

That's the sad part. The next generation won't even miss going to the gate to welcome someone off the airplane, going to school without walking through a metal detector, watching TV with the family without seeing a decapitation or rape or something, or even going to summer camp without fear of being diddled by one of the counselors. They'll have never experienced it. That's really weird to think about.

glatt 06-09-2005 11:59 AM

It's just as safe today to play out by the street or to go to summer camp as it was when we were kids. The difference now is that the news media will report emotional crimes nationwide now, where when we were kids, they wouldn't be reported at all, or only locally.

When I was a kid, a guy in my town baked his baby in the oven. Today, that would make national news, maybe even world news. Back then, it didn't even make statewide news.

The comments about increased airport security and graphic violence on TV are right on though.

wolf 06-09-2005 12:02 PM

I've looked at the UCRs. There is more bad shit happening today than there was 20, 30, and 40 years ago.

jaguar 06-09-2005 12:05 PM

I'm just wondering who picks up hitchhikers with bloodied shirts, bloodied chainsaws and a variety of weaponary.

glatt 06-09-2005 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
I've looked at the UCRs. There is more bad shit happening today than there was 20, 30, and 40 years ago.

Yeah, but are those reporting gang violence, or kids being abducted in their front yards?

I'll admit that violence surround the drug trade is on the rise over the last several decades, but if you don't deal drugs you don't have to worry about that.

jaguar 06-09-2005 12:20 PM

never lived in an area dominated by drug gangs have you?

Queen of the Ryche 06-09-2005 12:25 PM

I honestly believe our increased exposure to violence and ugliness breeds more violence and ugliness. I don't remember cartoons being nearly as violent when I was a kid (I know, the whole Wile E. Coyote anvil thing, but it was obvious humor). And I don't remember kids creating bombs or bringing guns to school when I was a kid either. Overexposure breeds empathy in my opinion.

glatt 06-09-2005 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
never lived in an area dominated by drug gangs have you?

Nope. I feel sorry for those that do.

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Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche
I honestly believe our increased exposure to violence and ugliness breeds more violence and ugliness. I don't remember cartoons being nearly as violent when I was a kid (I know, the whole Wile E. Coyote anvil thing, but it was obvious humor). And I don't remember kids creating bombs or bringing guns to school when I was a kid either. Overexposure breeds empathy in my opinion.

I agree 100%.

mrnoodle 06-09-2005 01:34 PM

Here's a story about the system actually working as intended. We'd get someone like this about once a month when I was at the gunshop. In fact, the system is so picky about who it lets through that we regularly had customers with clean records still come through as "denied" because their name was similar to someone who wasn't clean.

The funniest one that I witnessed was when our district attorney was denied. :lol:

anyhoo, the story

wolf 06-09-2005 01:58 PM

Damn. Denied AND an attempt at a straw purchase. Nice, however, to see the system work the way it's supposed to.

I do wish that the media wouldn't start that knee jerk guns 'r bad thing though ... making a point of discussing that an AR15 is just like an M16 for civilians without actually mentioning the very significant differences.

xoxoxoBruce 06-09-2005 11:02 PM

The Doc seemed anxious to get some firepower. Wonder if he dimed his patients (and/or their pimps) in his drug troubles :eek:
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I wish Big Brother would go away and let me shoot my guns, smoke my cigarettes, discipline my kid, and go about my business.
Get out of CA for starters, you could probably do all that where Case lives and I'm sure you could in the OK panhandle.

Queen of the Ryche 06-10-2005 01:21 PM

I still manage to get away with it here in the privacy of my own home (no, not the guns - we go to our private Ranch up north to do that) so far . . . I don't let the liberal opinion of L.A. sway my rights.


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