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itzBoo 08-21-2005 01:15 AM

Windows Vs. Macs
 
Are you a Windows or Mac Person?

Mr.Anon.E.Mouse 08-21-2005 03:01 AM

Mac.

bluecuracao 08-21-2005 03:17 AM

I gots a G4 and a PowerBook, but sometimes I have to work on a PC to check for compatibility, plus other things. Fine with me.

Happy Monkey 08-21-2005 07:27 AM

I'd like to be a Mac person, but I'm a PC Games person, which means I'm a Windows person.

Clodfobble 08-21-2005 09:57 AM

I have one of each. Mac for audio work, PC for everything else.

russotto 08-21-2005 11:41 AM

PC for games, plethora of Macs for everything else.

BigV 08-21-2005 12:56 PM

My Mac days are way way behind me (this reprepsents the platform of my most recent experience). I didn't plunge into the windows world right away, though. I have a Pied Piper (CP/M) machine downstairs, along with the Amiga 1000 (both running, well, they were running when I parked them). Eventually, DOS, then Windows.

Windows dominates my computing life now. I'm sure there are other similarly capable platforms available, but I just don't have the bandwidth to spare to get up to speed on them. Windows for work, Windows for home, Windows for recreation. *sigh*

I'm happy to hear about all your other experiences.

Radar 08-21-2005 12:58 PM

I work on both, but prefer windows. Mac OS X has some really neat tools and tricks, but if you're not in the entertainment industry, virtually everyone is using Windows. I'll go with a 100 times bigger software selection, and the same or better performance to Mac in all areas (including graphics, sound, and video-editing), the same or better stability than Macs, and half the price of the Mac.

Perry Winkle 08-21-2005 02:07 PM

Work - Win2k, who cares? It's work.
Games - WinXP or OSX work fine for me
Fun, Fun Work, and Even More Games - Linux

Unix and Unix-derived OSes jive with my personal philosophy and would be my work platform if I had a choice.

Kitsune 08-21-2005 02:57 PM

Just moved to a Powerbook some months ago. The PC has collected dust ever since.

itzBoo 08-22-2005 12:05 AM

I am half and half of windows and macs, my reason for this is because they both have their advances and vice versa.

Hobbs 08-23-2005 10:07 AM

In all honesty, I would love to be excusively Mac, but I have better access to PC software at work. Most of the Mac stuff is also cost prohibative to own over a PC. The Macs multimedia capabilities is kickass.

Kitsune 08-23-2005 10:19 AM

Really, Hobbs? I found that with all of the software that comes with a Mac by default that it was cheaper in the long run.

Of course if by "better access" you really mean "pirate", then I understand what you mean.

Hobbs 08-23-2005 10:31 AM

Not pirated, our office is completly PC so I have access to quadrillion dollars of high end multimedia and 3d animation software.

Pie 08-23-2005 12:11 PM

At home we have:
1 windows box (almost never used)
2 Macs (1 cube & 1 TiBook)
2 Linux boxes (1 Slackware & 1 gentoo/MythTV)

Kitsune 08-23-2005 12:14 PM

I have access to quadrillion dollars of high end multimedia and 3d animation software

$1,000,000,000,000,000 worth of software? That's like, one hundred gazillions! Jesus Christ!

Clodfobble 08-23-2005 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie
At home we have:
1 windows box (almost never used)
2 Macs (1 cube & 1 TiBook)
2 Linux boxes (1 Slackware & 1 gentoo/MythTV)

We have a MythTV setup too, just got it running a few weeks ago. I love it! :love:

lookout123 08-23-2005 01:39 PM

Quote:

I have access to quadrillion dollars of high end multimedia and 3d animation software
*ahem* black helicopters, off the books budget... don't ask, you may disappear.

elSicomoro 08-23-2005 01:57 PM

I have a PC, but want an iBook or Powerbook. My gf's family computer (a Gateway) crashed last month, and they just bought an iMac, which I'm going over to hook up tonight.

Pie 08-23-2005 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble
We have a MythTV setup too, just got it running a few weeks ago. I love it! :love:

To be honest, we're still working on the MythTV. I'm having trouble with the digital sound output, and Badger is working on the video drivers. What distro did you go with?
- Pie

Clodfobble 08-23-2005 04:55 PM

Erm... I'll ask. I wasn't really involved in the process of setting it up. :) I do know it took him a good week of tinkering with it before everything worked just right.

smoothmoniker 08-23-2005 08:42 PM

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Creative people use creative gear

Hobbs 08-24-2005 09:25 AM

My wife just got a brand new IBook from work. The OS is awesome. The only thing that I still have a problem with is Mac's lack of a good file manager program.

Kitsune 08-24-2005 10:59 AM

he only thing that I still have a problem with is Mac's lack of a good file manager program.

No kidding! I crave for image thumbnailing, although rumor has it that we won't have to wait much longer...

BigV 08-24-2005 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoothmoniker
<a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx">
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Creative people use creative gear

I have a Creative sound card. Does that make me a musician? Maybe a foley artist? Smart alec with a sound card?

Um, ok. Bye.

Hobbs 08-24-2005 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune
No kidding! I crave for image thumbnailing, although rumor has it that we won't have to wait much longer...

Wait much longer! Crimony! The Mac OS is older than God himself. It wasn't for a lack of competition, even Windows 3.0 had a file manager, however rudementry that it was. What is Jobs waiting for?

Mac OS Engineers: "Uh, lets just wait a little while longer. I think this file manager thing is overrated."
[Other engineers in room nod heads and mumble softly sounds of unintelligable agreement]

Happy Monkey 08-24-2005 01:18 PM

Is a file manager more than a tree view of the file system?

Perry Winkle 08-24-2005 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
Is a file manager more than a tree view of the file system?

Doesn't even have to be that much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobbs
Wait much longer! Crimony! The Mac OS is older than God himself. It wasn't for a lack of competition, even Windows 3.0 had a file manager, however rudementry that it was. What is Jobs waiting for?

OS X is only like 4 years old IIRC and is a completely different beast than previous Mac OSes. You've got a lot of options for file managers. Finder, bash(and any other shells that come with OSX), and any of the open source file managers that you can compile for BSD/Mach.

Am I missing something?

Hobbs 08-24-2005 01:30 PM

Well, yes and no. Windows actually has two type of file managers. The tree style that allows you to take an overview look at the file structure, and it also allows you to browse via windows. True, Mac also does the latter, however the nice thing that Windows allows you to do is open folders up in the same window instead of each of it own windows. By the time I'm done drilling into all the folders I need, I have a gazillion windows open.

Kitsune 08-24-2005 01:31 PM

Is a file manager more than a tree view of the file system?

I second that question for Hobbs. My massive frustration with Windows is that I cannot manage files as easily as I can with OSX at the moment unless I get into some weird script writing of my own.

Mmm. Bash goodness.

Kitsune 08-24-2005 01:33 PM

the nice thing that Windows allows you to do is open folders up in the same window instead of each of it own windows

If you play around in OSX a bit more, you'll find this option for Finder.

Perry Winkle 08-24-2005 01:39 PM

It's funny even Apple advocates the use of shell utilities for file management.

But the drilling down problem with OS X is a non-issue, at least in 10.3, the first tab of Finder preferences allows you to turn off the "open everything in a new window" shit. I just wish it was that easy in the last version of Gnome I used.

EDIT: kitsune beat me to the punch on the Finder option!

Kitsune 08-24-2005 01:49 PM

Sorry about that, Grant. I have an itchy trigger finger, today.

Honestly, though, my move to OS X wasn't a smooth one. I knew enough Unix-like commands to get around in the shell, but the OS X GUI was pretty new to me. Having someone sit down and show me how to get around helped a lot because a lot of my tendencies to try to treat it like Windows were catching me on little snags and it got to be kind of frustrating.

Here is my one of my current frustrations in Windows file management -- anyone have a simple solution to this one?

Doing a file copy, let's say you get a lot of "file already exists". Your options are as follows to "Would you like to overwrite?": "Yes to All", "Yes", "No", "Cancel"

Sadly, there never has been a "No to All", so if you're copying thousands of files into a dir and have possibly hundreds of dupes, you get to spend your hours clicking away. If you do it via command line, you'll never find out which files were duped. How the hell do you get around this?

I don't even want to start on how to massively rename files. Grr.

Hobbs 08-24-2005 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune
If you play around in OSX a bit more, you'll find this option for Finder.

Sweet! Didn't even look. I mean, after all this time, I figured why bother.

BTW, Found this by accident. Here's a good before and after shot.

Pie 08-24-2005 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune
Sadly, there never has been a "No to All", so if you're copying thousands of files into a dir and have possibly hundreds of dupes, you get to spend your hours clicking away. If you do it via command line, you'll never find out which files were duped. How the hell do you get around this?

A google search of windows file copy "no to all" revealed the following:

Quote:

Just Say No to All

Every time you move or copy files from one folder to another, Windows checks the target folder for files that have the same names as those you are copying. If it finds a duplicate name, it asks whether you want to overwrite the file in the target folder. When more than one file is selected, your choices are 'Yes' (overwrite just this file), 'Yes to All' (overwrite all files with matching names), 'No' (don't overwrite this file), and 'Cancel' (stop the whole process now). If you click 'Yes' or 'No', you will see the same prompt for each duplicate that Windows finds. If you're just resuming an interrupted download from a server, you can click 'Yes to All' to overwrite everything and save yourself some clicks. But this approach slows down the process as Windows overwrites files you downloaded previously. Why not just say 'No to All'?

Burak Gül of Eskisehir, Turkey, has the solution. To say 'No to All', simply hold down Shift as you click No. Windows will move or copy all files except those with duplicate names in the target folder. Note that if you move or copy folders as well as files, you still get at least one prompt for folders and another for files when duplicate names are found.
YMMV.

BigV 08-24-2005 02:47 PM

THANK YOU PIE!!! :maximum smilies:

Kitsune 08-24-2005 02:51 PM

Pie, you are my hero for today.

Clodfobble 08-24-2005 03:23 PM

Damn, and I knew that one too! Oh well, I can be your hero another day I guess.

Pie 08-24-2005 03:32 PM

Yippee! Somebody found me useful.

My work here is done. :)

Perry Winkle 08-24-2005 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune
I don't even want to start on how to massively rename files. Grr.

If you're talking about OS X and don't mind a console utility I'll put together a script real quick tomorrow morning (no access to a unix box until then). I did this for someone on linuxquestions.org forums but I can't seem to find it anymore.

I probably know what you want already but if you give a couple examples that will make sure you get it how you want it.


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