The Coming Apocalypse: Hurricanes, Tsunamis, Bird Flu and Politics
 

Okay...someone had to do it...someone had to start an End of the World Thread (tm), and it might as well be me. Over in the discussion on gas prices, TW has launched the "divine retribution" missle. Radar, in most posts, stops just short of calling the USA a police monarchy. We have Cellarites in the path of Hurricane Rita. We have Cellarites with damage to their homes and economies from Katrina. Mt. St. Helens and Yellowstone Park are bulging. Jihad is afoot in the Middle East. The Red Sox won the World Series.

Surely, these are all signs of the impending Apocalypse. So...what do *you* think, gentlefolk? Is it coming? Will the J-Man return, or is it just another phase of geological time? Have the Illuminati finally shot themselves in the foot?

This should make for some spirited discussion.

Dogs and cats living together.

Actually, I think we've just been living well for a long time, and things are going to take a downturn. I don't think it's the end-of-the-world, though.

Tell you one thing, I don't wanna be around to see the grocery store if the Apocalypse is approaching. By all accounts, we're going to get nothing more than a little heavy rain this weekend from Rita, but it was a fuckin' madhouse this afternoon--and the aisles that usually house bread, peanut butter, bananas, juice, and water were all completely barren.

Why bananas? The other stuff is pretty non-perishable. Is it to go with the peanut butter? The same with milk. I would think that people would get non-perishable stuff to drink, like Gatorade or even apple juice.

Can you imagine the disaster if the J-Man returns and calls himself Mohammed? And what happens if he is born on 6 June 2006? Fear not for I seek more temptation. It's time for a beer.

Banana float? They are easy to find in brown oily water?

You mash them up and put them in your hair, remember?

The world is gearing up for the Earthchanges promised by a variety of cultures, based on the timetable nicely provided to us by the Mayans.

These are the days of chaos and confusion. Wait until this cycle completes, you won't know what hit you.

The Earth prepares for 12-21-2012, the end of the calendar, and the dawning of the Sixth Sun. We are in the time when the choices are made, the people, by the way their lives are lived decide if they will enter the Sixth Sun.

I prefer to look at the logical reason - tamper with the laws of nature/physics (and we do a lot of that - be it green house gases, raw materials extraction, interfering with genetics, interfering with cultures, etc) and you'll get an appropriate reaction/correction. We're just feeling the correction reach a stage where it is more noticeable and evident than before - just shows how much we have been interfering...

I've already laid in my supply of N95s, food rations, water, hand-crank radio, etc. etc. etc. I had to promise my mom I'd do it -- she's sure the world will collapse in the next year or so from H5N1. (She's no nut -- she has a PhD and is a cancer healthcare advocate.)
Now I'm just trying to decide if it's worth trying to survive. I mean, if the New World Order favors someone of Wolf's training, I'm not sure I want to be there to see it.
Listen to this presentation at the Woodrow Wilson Center for more postapocalyptic fear...

1) Where did you purchase your N-95's?
2) How many did you buy?
3) How long can one be used before replacement is required?

I spent a lot of time researching this exact thing last night, and it looks like the best I can do is about $1.95 apiece.

Yep, they're 'spensive. I got them on Amazon. I got 42 of them -- 12 with a vent ($17.72), 30 without ($12.95). They can be used for 8 hours apiece. I assume we will use them sparingly (ie, stay home from work, stay out of public if at all possible...) Then again, my best investment may be cyanide pills. Anyone know a good supplier?
At this rate, I seriously doubt humanity will last the next century. Or if we do survive, it will be at about 10% of our current population... Good riddance.

Sure, unless it's a loved one that's dying in your arms. :(

He's just the kind of guy to play that kind of joke, too. Oh, Jesus, you're such a card!

Come on! Buck up! A few historic hurricanes and tsunami, a no-win war with no end in sight, rampant secular, sacred and corporate corruption, a possible plague-like illness, and 666 running the entire show via a little man named Dubya? The beginning of the New Dark Ages, maybe, but surely not the end.

That's the only thing that makes me pause, and why I've stocked up with the foot, water, etc. I've got a mom, a dad, and a husband for whom I need to stay alive. But if they go - zip, I'm outta here! :lol:

On the record: Let's not overlook the birth of the red heffer and the possibility of Isreal rebuilding the temple. These plus all the natural disasters, technology allow the mark of the beast, wars should be enough to dust off your bibles and bone up on your redemption.

Off the record: I occationally lead a bible study group, and I teach kindergarten "Sunday school." Despite this, I have a hard time totally buying into the "sign of the times" concept. It's always typical of us humans to mold so called "signs" into a convient concept that suits the current idea. There have been killer storms for centuries. There have always been wars, starvation, etc. One of the reasons why we are more aware of it is becuase we live in an age where information can reach us the second it happens. CNN, internet news. Plus the news outlets love to spread bad news. Flavor of the day. How much information are we recieving from Bagdad as of late becuase of the hurricanes?

Something else we do as humans is put God on a time schedule. Time is a manmade concept. God follows his own clock, time means nothing to him. We can't predict anthing biblical, that's why we're told to always be ready.

I guess what I am saying is, I am not totally discounting the "signs", and sometimes rain is just....rain.


Jeeze, I'm starting to sound like TW, maybe it is the end of times :lol: .

So then, what's a good little Athiest to do? :devil: Perhaps you'd say I'm part of the problem.

That's the thing about being an Athiest, you can do whatever you want. ;)

Apocalypse etc etc etc
 

So is it the general consensus is that we're all fucked then ?? :D

Well be-bop, that would be an improvement. Reduces agression you know. :blush:

So, to beat the dead horse (or migratory waterfowl, whatever): what are you squirreling away for the coming 'pocalypse? Food, water, medical, sanitation, engineering, financial?

And any thoughts on the best water filtration systems? I've ordered the Katadyn Camp Filter, some water purification tablets and some bottled water...

boo!

nuttery can spread by osmosis?

The implication here is that our current government would allow its own people to die in the name of profit?

Yup. Absolutely, they would. Not a doubt in my mind. After all, what's good for business is good for the country. Well, the survivors, anyway.

Tamiflu, meh. Very iffy, efficacy-wise. Tempest in a teapot, all of it. I've been waiting to catch SARS for-it seems like-years.

Don't forget the bows they'll take when they announce unemployment is down and Social Security is way in the black. :(

I should have added Global Warming to this Thread Title...
 

So, on the way to work this morning, Selene and I drove by a flock of at least 50 robins foraging around on the median of one of our local urban parkways. This is odd, because (1) robins usually don't hang around these parts by the end of December, and (2) I've never seen more than two or three robins in close proximity before. No shit, this was a huge group of the birds.

Anyone else have any personal ecological oddities to share in this end of the world thread?

We have 5 more years. According to The Outer Space Connection the aliens aren't coming back to get us until December 24th, 2011 (which seemed like a long way off when I saw this movie in the theater when I was 10 years old.) :tinfoil:

Santa will be coming down Ohio chimney's in his T-shirt and Bermuda's because it is WARM here in the Ohio Valley. Very warm. Not a speck of snow in sight. What global warming?

Hey, maybe he'll show up in his Speedo.

Kewl! :santa:

They're off by slightly less than a year. The bingo date is 12-21-2012.

News said this morning that this is the first time since 18-something that there won't be snow in Central Park. (New York)

Cool, you have insider info? Do tell! :p

Britain has just had the warmest year on record. I was pleased to hear it actually, as I've been complaining about how warm it was all year, and have met with baffled looks from my colleagues.

Of course it's bad news for the future if this isn't a random blip. Perhaps I should start learning Icelandic...

That's when the current cycle of the Mayan Calendar ends. It marks the end of the Fifth Sun, and the beginning of the Sixth Sun.

The last time a Calendar Cycle ended, the Spaniards invaded Mexico and South America.

Most cultures' prophecies run out about now, too.

There is an absolutely horrible looking site, with fairly comprehensive information about prophecies from around the world. You'll thank me that I linked you to the prophecies rather than making you fish around from the front page.

Here is a great site with a bunch of end of the world scenarios.

It's all out in Louisville, Colorado. :eek:

Apart from the obvious fucking up of the ecosystem, we aren't really living in a more apocolyptic world now, than we did a hundred, a thousand or ten thousand years ago.

There have always been people living in the face of danger and disaster, we've had ice ages, mini ice ages, continental shifts, great waves and whole cities buried under flowing lava. They aren't signs of a coming messiah.

It's possible that we have done enough damage in the last hundred years or so, to the earth's natural systems that we genuinely face true destruction.....but it's not the rapture, neither is the wolf swallowing the sun, nor is this destruction part of a larger and ineffable plan. It's stuff thats happening. there has always been stuff happening, and if our grandchildren have not been robbed of a healthy world to live in, by our excess, then stuff will continue to happen.

My dad keeps predicting the apolcolypse or some other non-religious end of the world type scenario. So far there's been three or four non-events and we're all still living.

The last time he started up about it was about 3 months before Dazza and I got married. My response was, "as long as I get to be married to Dazza, I don't give a shit".

We're still alive, and maybe the world will end some time, but I pretty much don't care either way as long as I'm happy with the way I live my life and I've lived a good life.

I'm sure Dad will tell us on Christmas day that 2007 is the year it'll all end, but that's ok. As long as he's got something to worry about he'll be happy. I don't have to believe him, and he doesn't have to care if I don't. :)

Just good clean fun...

I have a gut feeling that the enviro-apocalypse crowd's brains are being tickled the same way the the end o' the world religious nuts are. It is some hard wired thing from our ancestor's need to be vigilant for large mammals who wanted to eat them.

edit : it is unfortunate that some end o' timers have access to bombs and armies, though.

Yer, apocalypse scenarios are built into the human brain somehow; stories of belief in them are found all over history.