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elSicomoro 10-24-2005 05:33 PM

Networking a PC and a Mac
 
Hey folks...

I'm trying to get April's laptop PC to connect to her Mac at home. It's an iMac with the latest version of OS X and an airport card. The PC tells me that it's reading the network just fine, but then will not access any internet sites.

I must be missing something incredibly simple...help!!!

Gracias in advance.

smoothmoniker 10-24-2005 05:55 PM

under network options for the mac, make sure that "internet sharing" is turned on.

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 06:14 PM

Okay...did that. Still nothing. Should I reboot the Mac?

laebedahs 10-24-2005 06:23 PM

Edit: oops. Thought you were doing this on the Mac, heh.

On the PC, go to Start, Run, type <code>cmd</code> and click ok to open that up (type <code>command</code> instead if you're using a version of Windows besides Windows 2000 or XP). It will open a black window, in that window type <code>tracert 216.239.39.99</code>. Post the results here. To copy the results, follow these instructions:
Quote:

To copy text from the command window right-click on the window and choose "Mark", then drag the cursor across the text and right-click again. The text may then be pasted into any Windows text editor. To copy text to the command window, place the desired text on the clipboard, then right-click on the command window and select "Paste".

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 06:28 PM

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laebedahs 10-24-2005 06:31 PM

Well, at least we know your internet connection on the Mac is working ;) Do the same thing on the PC with my edited post, but also type <code>ipconfig/all</code> and paste the results here as well.

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 06:35 PM

When I typed in "tracert 216.239.39.99" on the windows laptop, I got the following (I can't paste from windows to here):

Tracing route to 216.239.39.99 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

laebedahs 10-24-2005 06:38 PM

Ok, run the <code>ipconfig/all</code> and give me those results. If you have to, save it on a floppy or burn it to a cd and take it to the Mac and open it up. If you can't do that, tell me the relevant output I need from the <code>ipconfig/all</code>:

IP address
DNS
Gateway

lumberjim 10-24-2005 06:39 PM

hit ctrl+V to paste

laebedahs 10-24-2005 06:45 PM

You're missing what sycamore is saying. He's on the Windows PC which has no active internet connection.

lumberjim 10-24-2005 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamore
(I can't paste from windows to here):

.

this was what i was responding to. in the quick reply box, when you right click, there is no 'paste' option. ctrlV paste works, tho


i only ACT dumb...it's ok, you're new

lumberjim 10-24-2005 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

i only ACT dumb

don't say it.

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 06:50 PM

Hope this is what you're looking for:

Connections-specific DNS suffix: (blank)
Autoconfiguration IP Address: 169.254.220.185
Subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway: (blank)

lumberjim 10-24-2005 06:51 PM

huh. apparently, in IE, there IS a paste option. i use Mozilla at home, and there isn't. learn something everyday.

laebedahs 10-24-2005 07:01 PM

Need some more information. Are you trying to connect the PC directly to the Mac to share the Internet connection? Or do you have a router? I assume you don't have a router based on what you've stated but I need to ask.

As far as the Mac goes, I'm not too familiar with them, but let me see if I can find something (leaving work now so won't be able to reply for about 30 mins ).

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 07:06 PM

The Mac is connected to DSL. I want to be able to connect the PC to the internet through that DSL. The Mac has an airport card, and the PC has a wireless connection. The PC reads the Mac's network, but will not allow me to connect to any website. I've turned on Internet sharing, Windows sharing, etc. on the Mac. I'm not sure what else to do on the PC.

Hope that helps.

laebedahs 10-24-2005 07:22 PM

How can you tell the PC reads the Mac's network? If you're returning a 169.x.x.x IP (which is almost always an IP that the computer assigns to itself when it can't pull one via DHCP), it sounds to me like it isn't.

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 08:36 PM

The PC shows the wireless icon, along with the name of the Mac network, the speed of the connection and the signal strength.

laebedahs 10-24-2005 09:04 PM

Can you double click that, click on the support tab, and tell me the IP address/gateway it shows? Also, go into the Control Panel, then Network Connections. In there you should have a Local Area Connection and a Wireless Network Connection Disable the Local Area Connection and try to run that tracert command again.

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 09:20 PM

IP address is 192.168.1.64

The Local Area Connection is already disabled.

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 09:26 PM

Okay...what is a base station? I didn't think one was needed because we have the airport card.

laebedahs 10-24-2005 09:43 PM

Pretty sure you don't need one since the Mac is acting as the base station. Try: <code>ping 192.168.1.1</code> on the PC.

elSicomoro 10-24-2005 10:06 PM

I quit for the night before seeing that last post. I told April to call Apple and/or Dell tomorrow to see if they can help her figure out what's wrong.

My suspicion is that it's something on the Mac side, because the PC easily connects to other PC networks, such as my own. It's probably something incredibly stupid that I didn't do...we'll see.

Thanks for your help, laebedahs!

laebedahs 10-24-2005 10:10 PM

You'll most likely -- so I've read -- get a standard response from Apple: "We don't support that", since you're trying to use non-Apple hardware (Mac-PC wireless, that is) with your Mac.

vsp 10-30-2005 08:35 PM

A little different PC/Mac networking question:

I have an iMac running OS 9.2.2 and a PC running 98SE. The two are sharing a DSL connection via a new 802.11g router. If I want the Mac to be able to see, copy and/or open files on the PC (say, accessing a file containing several GBs of music files), what are the less-to-medium painful ways of setting this up?

I've figured out Web Sharing to let the PC access the Mac's files, but I'd like to make it go the other way.

russotto 10-30-2005 10:09 PM

A program called "Dave" is the easiest way, but it costs money.

Best free solution would probably be running a WebDAV server (no relation to Dave) on the PC. Apache will do.

mbpark 10-31-2005 01:24 PM

Dave.

Dave (www.thursby.com) costs money. However, it is hands-down the best third party software, IMHO, for networking a PC to a Mac and vice versa.

If you were running Windows Server 2003 or Windows 2000 Server, you can turn on "Services for Macintosh" and share out your volumes that way.

Heck, some old NAS boxes even do that if they have AFP support.

Mitch

vsp 11-02-2005 06:27 PM

WarFTP Daemon 1.6 on the PC, Interarchy 6.3 on the Mac, and I have PC -> Mac file access.

mbpark 11-03-2005 03:37 PM

VSP,

And the best part is that both are free :).

Mitch


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