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rkzenrage 10-16-2007 05:46 PM

.45 suggestions.
 
Probably going to be getting my new .45 soon (antis please stay out of this, it is OT) and want some suggestions/advice.
Renewing my carry lic, I have never had a "civilian" lic before, I had a commercial lic. I'm sure it is very different.
I know I can't carry where they sell open alcohol, state/govt property and some other places. That will be different, but not much.

I am looking at the Glock Slimline .45 or this one. If I remember correctly it is the Glock 6.
I really hate the weapons with the thick handles.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...D45Compact.jpg

What is the difference between the APC round and the straight .45, which is what I always carried?

I liked that I could get my target ammo at Wal-Mart.

lumberjim 10-16-2007 06:09 PM

I was thinking of getting my cock shortened. Any suggestions? It's just so big, and ungainly. I'd like to get it under 24 inches at least......but 18 might be ok too.....

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 06:14 PM

I know the apc was developed for the Thompson, but don't know the details.
Does not look like I'll ever own a US gun... all my previous weapons are from Germany, the Springfield is a company they purchased from Croatia and they just import it.

HungLikeJesus 10-16-2007 06:21 PM

rk -

I'm sorry I can't give you any advice, as mine is an old M1911. I haven't looked at any of the newer ones.

Some of my Hapkido instructors are also handgun instructors. I'll ask if they have any recommendations. Are you determined to go with a .45 for concealed carry? Or are you open to other options? How will you carry it?

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 08:02 PM

I have a few options for carry, as I have the chair... but yes, only a .45. I miss my old officer's model, but it was really heavy and am wanting to go with the newer, lighter, type.

monster 10-16-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 395862)
I was thinking of getting my cock shortened. Any suggestions? It's just so big, and ungainly. I'd like to get it under 24 inches at least......but 18 might be ok too.....


Were you planning on doing anything about the girth? I really hate weapons with thick handles.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 08:12 PM

Sometimes I'd like to give rkz 45 suggestions. :alien:

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 08:26 PM

As long as they are constructive.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 08:27 PM

well, they might not ALL be constructive from your perspective. ;)

monster 10-16-2007 08:28 PM

he only wants .45, though.

Something like...

Given the conditions you mention, I would suggest that you might like to try a

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 08:28 PM

And not in here... as I stated in the original post... I asked for no OT posts... silly in here I guess.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 08:29 PM

Suggestiong number 1. Yes it is silly to think people would stay on topic in this place.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 08:32 PM

I already stated it was a pipe-dream.
You already went over your .45... thanks for the suggestion.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 08:33 PM

I wasn't counting the decimal point. :) I still have 44 to go.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 08:34 PM

Noooooo, thread title is clear.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 08:40 PM

Sorry, I'm decimal deficient. It's still 44 to go. :)

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 08:43 PM

Will someone please post about my new gun!?

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 08:48 PM

rk, I have Sig P245, I like it. It is very accurate out of the box and needs no "tunning" or upgrades like most of the Colt look-a-likes. My only complaint is the weight, I wish it were a bit lighter.
http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/245/245.htm

The only exception to that IMO would be Kimber Ultra Compact ll. Kimbers are a bit pricey.
http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols...ultracarry.php


I have an HK USP which is more of a combat hand gun similar in size to an officers model. I really do love the HK's.
http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/usp_general.html

I would like to get the HK compact in .40 but it is hard to justify with owning the Sig.
http://www.hkpro.com/uspc.htm

I am a hard core .45 guy but I would take a good look at .40 cal hand guns. Many federal agents and LEO's now carry the .40 in a number of different manufactures and makes. All of the studies have proven the effectiveness of the stopping power of the .40 in real life situations. My wife has and sometimes carries a Sig 229 in .40.

I would take a good look at the Subcompacts Glock G30 (.45) or the G27 (.40). I found the 27 hand grip to short for my big assed paws.
http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm

The 30 just barely fit, but it was lightweight and I could imagine it would be comfortable to carry.
http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm

The larger handgrip models the G23 would be a great gun but it is also in .40.
http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm

Bottom line is how much you want to spend. That will dictate all of your options.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 08:52 PM

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You should get one like this rkz. It looks pretty cool.

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TheMercenary 10-16-2007 08:53 PM

The .45 APC (automatic colt pistol) is the modern style .45 that 95% of all .45's use. The other is the .45 Colt which is rimmed and is found only in revlover western style handguns now a days. Then the variations go up from the standard .45 that we know to the expanded hunting rounds that would still be considered .45, but that is another subject.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 09:02 PM

Get your hands up you pussy!
 
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rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 395998)
rk, I have Sig P245, I like it. It is very accurate out of the box and needs no "tunning" or upgrades like most of the Colt look-a-likes. My only complaint is the weight, I wish it were a bit lighter.
http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/245/245.htm

The only exception to that IMO would be Kimber Ultra Compact ll. Kimbers are a bit pricey.
http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols...ultracarry.php


I have an HK USP which is more of a combat hand gun similar in size to an officers model. I really do love the HK's.
http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/usp_general.html

I would like to get the HK compact in .40 but it is hard to justify with owning the Sig.
http://www.hkpro.com/uspc.htm

I am a hard core .45 guy but I would take a good look at .40 cal hand guns. Many federal agents and LEO's now carry the .40 in a number of different manufactures and makes. All of the studies have proven the effectiveness of the stopping power of the .40 in real life situations. My wife has and sometimes carries a Sig 229 in .40.

I would take a good look at the Subcompacts Glock G30 (.45) or the G27 (.40). I found the 27 hand grip to short for my big assed paws.
http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm

The 30 just barely fit, but it was lightweight and I could imagine it would be comfortable to carry.
http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm

The larger handgrip models the G23 would be a great gun but it is also in .40.
http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm

Bottom line is how much you want to spend. That will dictate all of your options.

That HK looks a lot like my old weapon. I really am lookin' at that. How is the weight/balance on it?
Yeah, Kimbers are out of my league, but sweet. Like that 1911.

monster 10-16-2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 395972)
And not in here... as I stated in the original post... I asked for no OT posts... silly in here I guess.

oh no you didn't! :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 395833)
(antis please stay out of this, it is OT) .

you asked for the antis to stay out because it's ot. You mentioned nothing about the rest of us silly arses. besides once the thread is out there, it's a free-for-all -especially in nothingland! :lol:

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 396013)
That HK looks a lot like my old weapon. I really am lookin' at that. How is the weight/balance on it?
Yeah, Kimbers are out of my league, but sweet. Like that 1911.

Weight and balance are perfect. In fact I think they are a bit better than my Sig. They have a double slide spring that reduces recoil. I only have the full size model but I really want to check out the compact.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:28 PM

I will be looking at the compact. I have two really sweet concealed spots on the chair. Plus I am cold all the time, so I wear a jacket a lot.
I also wear khakis with large side pockets often. Lots of spots.
On the chair I will permanently mount the holster for it. Much easier.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 09:31 PM

Who wants another picture?

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396022)
Who wants another picture?

Sure here is one:

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/hk/usp45compact.jpg

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:38 PM

http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/usp...ft-full-hi.jpg

Aliantha 10-16-2007 09:38 PM

No, I meant one we can all enjoy Merc.

You silly sausage. ;)

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:39 PM

Rk, more pics here: http://lundestudio.com/hks.html

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396033)
No, I meant one we can all enjoy Merc.

You silly sausage. ;)

Ok how about this one.

http://www.hkpro.com/416poster14.jpg

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:45 PM

Thanks for the info on the HK... got me thinking!

monster 10-16-2007 09:45 PM

needs more facial hair. And a less silly hat.

monster 10-16-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 396040)
I don't see a "here" in your last post.
Thanks for the info on the HK... got me thinking!


me either, but then I decided he must mean the links in his sig?

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 396041)
needs more facial hair. And a less silly hat.

Those hats are great. I have about 6 of them and wear them on a regular basis.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:49 PM

I really am thinking about getting my old sniper rifle back from the ranch from time to time and starting a club/classes. Could be fun.
We have the room, they would pour access for me and we have all the citrons in the groves we could ever use to simulate head-shots.
I would love to get up to 2000m constantly.
But, that would be SO long term... starting next year and if my pain gets way under control by then. Kinda' a pipe dream... but something that could be a lot of fun.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 396042)
me either, but then I decided he must mean the links in his sig?

He meant his following posts... I edited mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 396043)
Those hats are great. I have about 6 of them and wear them on a regular basis.

They are pretty comfortable, I have a few... still wear my cowboy style more.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 396031)

Man... that may be the one if the balance and weight is right! :cool:

monster 10-16-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 396043)
Those hats are great. I have about 6 of them and wear them on a regular basis.

your point being? :p

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 396046)
He meant his following posts... I edited mine.

fixed, sorry about that.

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=396035&postcount=30

Aliantha 10-16-2007 09:53 PM

ok, that's it. You're getting another one of MY pictures.

Just you wait!

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 396049)
your point being? :p

that they are not "silly", they are quite functional and time tested in numerous environments.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 396035)

Added to faves... some SWEET guns in there man!
http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/p7p...ht-full-hi.jpg

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396053)
ok, that's it. You're getting another one of MY pictures.

Just you wait!

HA! here is another one just for Ali!
A new model of the HK, the P2000.

http://lundestudio.com/photos/p2000sk-v3-right-flat.jpg

Aliantha 10-16-2007 09:59 PM

For those of you affected by paranoia
 
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Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:00 PM

Sorry fellas, you missed it.

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396061)

I fully support that notion. We need to buy more guns so it will be harder for the liberal UN lovers to take them away. :p

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:03 PM

This one is 'specially for you Mercy werky
 
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rkzenrage 10-16-2007 10:05 PM

I also want to get APC reloading equipment... my family does not have it or a stockpile of brass. At least not that I know of. I need to ask.
Most of it is long-range stuff and standard .45 stuff and 9mm.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:06 PM

Just so you don't feel left out rkz, here's one for you.
 
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TheMercenary 10-16-2007 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396066)

I can't read it. Something about food? :D

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:08 PM

very silly sausage

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396070)

Yes, it would be very sad to see anyone who would paint such a nice gun that way. I just can't really see the purpose in such a paint scheme.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:13 PM

well it's almost a term of endearment over here Merc.

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396078)
well it's almost a term of endearment over here Merc.

Then THANK YOU! I think.:D

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:18 PM

It doesn't stop me from thinking you're silly though. :)

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 10:23 PM

The tragedy being I don't have that gun?

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:28 PM

no rkz...you silly sausage. lol

The tragedy is that you do.

Urbane Guerrilla 10-16-2007 11:58 PM

Are we talking .45 ACP or .45 AGP -- the Automatic Glock Pistol cartridge is something new from them, essentially .45-ACP ballistics in a cartridge the length of a .40, giving you a more compact concealed carry pistol. Some police departments have adopted this new chambering, finding it remarkably ergonomic: the cops are scoring better on their twice-a-year marksmanship qualifications.

rkzenrage 10-17-2007 12:00 AM

Cool... I was looking at the XP, which is just an ACP. But will check yours out because I am still thinking of getting a SlimLine.
Thanks!


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