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xoxoxoBruce 02-26-2016 07:59 AM

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For that money/time frame, I'd bet anything replaced was built as an exact duplicate except maybe better material. Besides, during it's service life of 60 years and 3.3 million km, I'm sure a lot of parts have been replaced... at least once. I wonder about the "blinders", they're on at Doncaster, but not in service or on tour in the US, although she wore a head light in CA.
Oh my, Boston in '69 was sweet.

Carruthers 02-26-2016 08:40 AM

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I wonder about the "blinders", they're on at Doncaster, but not in service or on tour in the US, although she wore a head light in CA.
Oh my, Boston in '69 was sweet.
It seems that the recent restoration effort has returned the loco to the format it had during its service with the nationalised (1947) British Railways, including smoke deflectors and serial number 60103.
Prior to that, it spent much of its preserved life as 4472 of the London North Eastern Railway.
I had a vague recollection of 4472 being stranded in the US when the owner, Alan Pegler, was declared bankrupt and there's a comprehensive account of that episode on Wikipedia.
Adaptations required for the US tour are listed as:

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...a cowcatcher, bell, buckeye couplings, American-style whistle, air brakes, and high-intensity headlamp
Flying Scotsman - Wikipedia.

Carruthers 02-26-2016 09:14 AM

You wait 10 years for a train… then two come along at once!
 
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A trainspotter drove 50 miles and waited nearly an hour to see the Flying Scotsman yesterday - only for his view to be blocked by another train.

Ryan Allen, of Spilsby, Lincolnshire, thought he had set up at the perfect spot next to the East Coast Main Line in the village of Little Bytham.

However, he was left disappointed when a commuter train whizzed by at the exact moment the locomotive passed.

All that could be seen was the red and white body of the Virgin train, with the thick white smoke of the Flying Scotsman in behind it.

He tweeted his unfortunate moment in a video, saying: 'I had a feeling this would happen!'. It has since been retweeted more than 1,200 times.


However Virgin Trains, having unwittingly spoiled the view, have kindly offered a trip to Atlanta courtesy of Virgin Atlantic.


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xoxoxoBruce 02-27-2016 09:54 PM

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Grasshopper kills 16 humans.

xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2016 01:54 AM

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Ad for the Flying Scotsman...

xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2016 10:57 AM

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Whoops. I wonder if they found him in the wreck with his hand on the throttle? :speechls:

xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2016 09:23 PM

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This engine is in Switzerland and I'd guess it was used on a steep incline.

glatt 03-02-2016 07:24 AM

The nose is sloped, but the passenger compartment is parallel to the rails. It's a bit different than funicular rail cars.

xoxoxoBruce 03-02-2016 08:31 AM

I wonder if that's a passenger compartment, or the cab of the engine?

Ah, it's a camel engine.
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The Camelback was a design of steam locomotive developed in the late 19th century that could burn low-quality anthracite coal. Anthracite burns slowly with very little smoke, so railway engineer George Wootten created a large, wide firebox. This firebox was so tall it would block the view from the cab, so Wootten moved the driver's cab to a high position over the center of the boiler. This design of steam locomotive became known as "Camelback," "Center Cab," or "Mother Hubbard." It was very popular on the anthracite lines in the East, as it saved on fuel costs. But there were some problems. The first is that the fireman was more exposed to the elements. The second is that communication between the driver and fireman is more difficult. The third and most serious problem was that if the side rods were to break, they would destroy the cab and kill the driver, earning Camelbacks the nickname "Snappers." For this reason, Camelback engines were banned in 1918. One of them, Baltimore and Ohio 4-6-0 No. 305, is preserved in the B&O Railroad Museum.
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Actually, it's a "Camel" locomotive, not a "Camelback". Camels had the cab atop the boiler, whereas Camelbacks straddled the boiler. The Camel was designed by Ross Winans, and the cab was placed atop the boiler to put more weight on the drivers, which helped when going over the Alleghenies. The Camelbacks were designed to accommodate the Wide Wooten Fireboxes, which necessitated putting the cab around the boiler. There is a Camelback at the museum- the CNJ #592. BTW, this might look strange, but it was very very effective.
So it was for inclines, but not the same type as the lenticular mountain climbers.

BigV 03-02-2016 09:38 AM

Funicular, not lenticular.

xoxoxoBruce 03-02-2016 10:05 AM

Yes, I was checking to see if you were paying attention... that's my story and I'm sticking to it... unless of course someone questions it, then I'll come up with a new one. :blush:

BigV 03-02-2016 06:43 PM

Heh.

I try to pay attention.

xoxoxoBruce 03-03-2016 10:09 PM

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I guess this one is sort of a dirty kind.

xoxoxoBruce 03-04-2016 04:53 PM

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Line 'em up... impress the press.

xoxoxoBruce 03-06-2016 10:23 AM

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I stumbled on the B&O Museum in Baltimore...

xoxoxoBruce 03-07-2016 11:05 AM

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Rail-Tank

xoxoxoBruce 03-22-2016 10:25 PM

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A lot of towns and cities grew up as a result of the railroad. Even port cities welcome the trains right through town to the docks and waterfront warehouses. When the trains became dwarfed in presence and importance by trucks and automobiles, many of the surface tracks remained in use.

xoxoxoBruce 04-13-2016 03:46 PM

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Everything has limits, especially pressure cookers and steam engines.

glatt 04-14-2016 07:59 AM

Pretty weird looking. I wouldn't have expected train guts to look like that.

Gravdigr 04-14-2016 02:53 PM

That was one helluva train sneeze.

Undertoad 04-14-2016 03:57 PM

http://cellar.org/2016/cthulhu.png

Griff 04-15-2016 06:23 AM

Your puny machines cannot contain him.

xoxoxoBruce 04-16-2016 11:42 PM

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I don't know if I'd want them to go carefully slow, or get out of here fast. :haha:

Big Sarge 04-17-2016 12:22 PM

Let's not forget Casey Jones, probably the most famous train engineer of the era. He died with his hand on the throttle and the whistle in his hand. Famous for his runs in North Mississippi with speeds exceeding 80 mph in 1900 and numerous songs.

https://www.bmwe.org/journal/2000/04...ages/b0202.jpg


Gravdigr 04-17-2016 03:09 PM

***NSFW Language***


Casey Jones was a son-of-a-bitch,
Drove his train into a 30-foot ditch.
Jumped out the window with his dick in his hand,
Said "Look out ladies, I'm a fucking man!"
He lined 50 women up against the wall,
Said "Spread your legs, I'm gonna fuck you all!"
He fucked 48 then his balls turned blue,
And he backed off, jacked off, then fucked the other two.
Casey Jones died and went to hell,
He fucked the Devil, and he fucked him well.
Little demons running up and down the walls,
Screaming "Kill this bastard, before he fucks us all!"


Or, something like that.

xoxoxoBruce 04-19-2016 02:16 AM

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Doing the locomotion...

xoxoxoBruce 04-19-2016 09:44 PM

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Back in post #27 we talked about McKeen light rail locomotives, some with oddball engines.
Well it seems the last one on the face of the earth has been located in Anchorage and shipped to San Diego to be restored. It had it's pointy nose cut off somewhere along the way.

They have a website to beg for donations and publish updates.
They're going to need a lot of it, they ran $2k over on just the shipping charges. I didn't see what the bill was. :rolleyes:

xoxoxoBruce 04-24-2016 10:25 PM

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Think of all the rubber tires the railroad saves. ;)

glatt 04-25-2016 07:54 AM

That shit is heavy.

Gravdigr 04-26-2016 09:24 AM

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I was gonna use this for a post in "Where Is This - For Dummies", but, then, I looked at the engine again.

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Is it just me, or, is there something weird going on there?

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xoxoxoBruce 04-26-2016 09:40 AM

Pushing a load of logs.

glatt 04-26-2016 09:52 AM

And burning logs to do it, while going over a log trestle.

xoxoxoBruce 04-26-2016 10:09 AM

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Sure, what else would a logging operation burn but wood for a steam boiler. Just like the coal trains burning coal. Using just the slash would provide plenty of fuel for the engine, cook house, and any other heat needs of the logging operation.

Interesting, these cross logs aren't whole trees, but sections of trunks. But the ones that show they are the end of the trunk show how much had to be cut before the trunk snapped off.

glatt 04-26-2016 10:36 AM

I'm impressed that they can use logs of different diameters and get a finished trestle that is level enough for a train to go over it.

Gravdigr 04-26-2016 10:47 AM

I was thinking more of the wheel arrangement on the engine.

Looks funny.

xoxoxoBruce 04-26-2016 01:12 PM

It's a 50 ton Climax locomotive.
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A Climax locomotive is a type of geared steam locomotive in which the two steam cylinders are attached to a transmission located under the center of the boiler. This transmits power to driveshafts running to the front and rear trucks.

Gravdigr 05-07-2016 04:18 PM

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If you stay til the end, you get to see the 'engine'. The Emerald Night looks an awful lot like The Flying Scotsman.



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Gravdigr 05-07-2016 04:19 PM

Well, shit.

xoxoxoBruce 05-07-2016 05:19 PM

Casey Jones on acid. :eek: Looks like part of that track is temporary. Cool how the tunneled under the fence and shit.

glatt 05-09-2016 09:17 AM

I am impressed with that dude's setup.

fargon 05-09-2016 10:16 AM

Very impressive.

xoxoxoBruce 05-09-2016 10:20 AM

The cats didn't think so.

fargon 05-09-2016 04:13 PM

No prolly not.

xoxoxoBruce 05-09-2016 04:30 PM

Yeah, the cats were like ho hum it's not eatable. :haha:

Gravdigr 05-12-2016 02:40 PM

No sense chasing it...It'll be by again in a minute.

Gravdigr 05-12-2016 02:42 PM

Nashville's Centennial Park train could be restored, run again

xoxoxoBruce 05-12-2016 11:35 PM

If you have a hobby you can't afford, round up some others who share your interests, then find some people who will put up money to have you stop pestering them. :haha:

xoxoxoBruce 05-17-2016 03:21 AM

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The Flying Scotsman on the Forth Bridge...

Gravdigr 05-30-2016 01:08 PM

Colorado tourist train conductor falls to her death

xoxoxoBruce 06-29-2016 03:49 PM

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Electric Nazi...

xoxoxoBruce 06-30-2016 09:45 PM

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Looks like that plow/cow catcher, got a workout...

Griff 07-01-2016 06:34 AM

Damn those Nazis had style. If Trump's buildings weren't so tacky he'd have a good chance, but his name is too linked to chintzy.

Gravdigr 07-01-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 963588)
Damn those Nazis had styl

-ish trains.

I wanted to fix that so bad...

xoxoxoBruce 07-06-2016 05:10 PM

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Catalog of Railroad stuff...

BigV 07-06-2016 08:00 PM

I'd want one light enough to get the hell off the track in a hurry.

Undertoad 07-07-2016 07:49 AM

I learned from cartoons that they have a rail car that you move by pushing a see-saw up and down.

BigV 07-08-2016 09:55 AM

And confirmed by Blazing Saddles.

Gravdigr 07-08-2016 03:26 PM

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Dang that was lucky. We durn near lost a $400 handcart.
~Taggart

xoxoxoBruce 07-10-2016 07:34 PM

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Street car sort of fits with trains...

gtown 07-11-2016 12:14 PM

velocipede via wooden pallet...


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