Well, I think you can say things that people need to hear without making them feel worse about themselves.

If that was sugar coated, I doubt anyone would benefit from your alternative version.

Isn't he the president of Mexico?

no - Thats Emanuelle Labor'

I sent the email. Actually, resent the one from Mar 02, with the updated spreadsheet and a new message.

Even the spreadsheet has the original date and is named "updated 0320."

We'll see.

Sigh...

Sounds bloody miserable, Infi. I totally sympathise.

I am done "bitching and moaning". In fact if Monster hadn't posted something I felt warranted an acknowledgement and furth explanation I would have written even less.

I doubt they want my love or support, but it will be on offer anyway.

What do you resent?

Oh, you resent it? Was it recent, the one you resent?

Sorry. Typo. I meant "reazent" which means "to smack a smartass in the face, with gusto." ;)

Of course they do, you silly numpty!

Sorry Sundae. xx

I agree with limey above though.

The job I was supposed to start this week fell through. Next time, I think I will keep my lip zipped until I'm at least a full week in. :cry:

Awww CRAP.

Sundae, you will be invaluable to your niece. Do what you do best. Offer your shopping services. With her money for what she wants, getting the best deals as you know how. Shopping is one of the hardest things to do with 3-month-olds. Encourage her to invite her friends around, and bake cakes for her to serve.

"Offer love and support"? Either you love and you are there for her or you are not. No-one else can dictate that, it cannot be "stopped", it's not something to be "offered", it is unconditional. That said, it may not be well received. tough cookies for them. You love her, you're going to be there for her. period.

Why do you not see her breastfeeding? This is such a money saver as well as best for the baby. Even if you are revolted by the idea, it's surely in her best interest to try, so maybe you can be supportive there -I suspect from what you are saying (although i could be extrapolating wildly) that the family is not going to be supportive on that.... maybe because she's still their little girl and they can't even think of her having boobs never mind using them? She's going to need a strong advocate if she's going to try.

The list is endless. But what she doesn't need is to feel antagonism within the family. If what you can help her with is contrary to what the rest of the family thinks is a good idea, you need to just separate/back off a little bit from the family rather than stay close and get stressed about it. IMO

Monstah be wise !!

Re breastfeeding - I am all for it. I worked for a midwife for three years, and we sold and rented expressers and pumps and all that jazz.

I'm working on the assumption that the rates are very low for teens, her Mum didn't breastfeed (she found the idea revolting) and it is a longer process than bottle feeding; having twins I think she might reject it out of hand as being too hard.

I have taken all advice from here on board. And I do intend to try to get closer to her.
Mum saw her last night at football. They didn't talk about it. My sis has still not told my brother. My BIL refused to enter the bar because the father was seen in there.

I'm not the only fruitloop in the family.
Anyway, I'll move this from the upset thread because I'm not.

Going to ask her when her scan is. She'll probably know the sex then (identical twins) so I can start looking for deals for her. I'm already on board re the pushchair. Not sure if she'll listen though. I'll be suggesting best advice for health and she might want to go for the once with the prettiest parasol. She wouldn't be the first :)