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Sundae 03-01-2011 03:17 PM

I Don't Get It (translation thread)
 
A thread I expect to resurrect from time to time, when I don't understand a cultural reference from outside the Cellar.
Inside I am quite happy to check with the person posting.

This one is from the quote at the bottom of the page, so it's a bit disembowelled - half-in half-out.
Quote:

My son says to me (the 8-year-old), "Daddy, they misspelled Arctic on that beer." And so they did. Pete Coors, dumber than an 8-year-old.
- bartz (Bart Zantzinger)
What?
Please.

Shawnee123 03-01-2011 03:25 PM

Apparently, the Coors brewing company had a beer they called Artic Ice. Here's a linky, which includes a photo of the misspelled beer sign. Too funny.

http://www.minyanville.com/businessm.../2007/id/12667

Quote:

“It was an intentional spelling of the word arctic. It’s distinctive. It’s memorable,” said Judy Hartley, a Coors spokesperson. “We don't think of it as a misspelling. We think of it as alternative spelling.”

jimhelm 03-01-2011 03:41 PM

YEAH. it's juss differnt

Shawnee123 03-01-2011 03:43 PM

It's that there poyetic lisen.

Sundae 03-01-2011 03:45 PM

Cheers. Raise an Artic to me.
Here, an artic is an articulated lorry, ie a fuck-off long truck.

I'll be back.

DanaC 03-01-2011 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 714063)
Cheers. Raise an Artic to me.
Here, an artic is an articulated lorry, ie a fuck-off long truck.

I'll be back.

Talking of culturally specific idioms: is that usage of 'fuck-off' a Britism, or do you guys use it too?

Pico and ME 03-01-2011 05:59 PM

We're more direct and personal - 'fuck you'. Or more wordy - 'go fuck yourself'.

DanaC 03-01-2011 06:08 PM

No, I don't mean do you use it as in telling someone to fuck off. I mean the way Sundae used it : 'a fuck-off long truck'.

Pico and ME 03-01-2011 06:10 PM

'splain that one then, please. Like a 'fucking long truck'?

monster 03-01-2011 07:39 PM

yes. like that.

Pete Zicato 03-01-2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 714095)
yes. like that.

Then no. Mostly we say 'fucking long truck'.

Clodfobble 03-01-2011 11:36 PM

Sometimes we might say "longer than fuck-all," though.

limey 03-02-2011 02:03 AM

"Longer than fuck-all" to me would imply not very long, as fuck-all is not very much. (i.e. "There's fuck all to eat in the house and I'm starrrrrrrrvin'!").
Then again, I am from a nation which says "Not half" to mean "Lots" ....

Clodfobble 03-02-2011 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by limey
"There's fuck all to eat in the house and I'm starrrrrrrrvin'!"

I'd say this one too, just without the deep Scots brogue. ;) No one ever said the slang usage of fuck made any sense.

Clodfobble 03-08-2011 05:42 PM

Not a translation question, so much as a cultural one.

I was browsing a fluff article online which contained some data from a British phone survey on relationships, as part of a PR campaign for some new movie (a romantic comedy, I'm assuming.) The study claimed that

Quote:

58 percent of the same sample group [those in relationships longer than three years] enjoy regular holidays without their partners.
Is this really true? It stunned me. I realize that "holiday" to a Brit might mean a much less involved thing than a "vacation" to an American, but it does at least include an overnight stay, right? The survey included both married and unmarried couples, no mention of whether they had children, but still... that's a common thing? To routinely spend a weekend somewhere without your significant other?

jimhelm 03-08-2011 05:46 PM

don't forget that 58% of all stats are also made up on the spot.

DanaC 03-08-2011 06:38 PM

Well, my Bro and his family do have a family holiday each year, sometimes two, for about a week at a time. But they also have separate holidays sometimes as well. So, for instance, my SiL and her sister might go away for a week leaving Martin and the girls. Or Jen and the girls might go away and leave Martin to have a bit of peace and quiet for a week:P Very rare that Martin goes away without Jen though. I think that's probably happened maybe three times in the last decade. When they were first married it was more common for Martin to go on holiday without Jen, because he used to do caving/potholing trips.

But yeah, most years Jen will go for a holiday with just her sister/friends/the kids at least once. I don't think it's that uncommon really. In fact, I think Jen and Amelia are going away this year. Just the two of them off to Tunisia I think.

glatt 03-08-2011 08:52 PM

About once a year, my wife will take the kids with her to go see her mom. And gosh darn the luck, I usually am not able to get time off from work, so I stay home alone for a couple nights. I don't know if she would call it a holiday, and I'm still going to work, so it's not really one for me, but there you go.

monster 03-08-2011 09:19 PM

bizarrely, 58% was the stat I heard on the radio today for the number of divorces in which one partner's use of porn is cited.

Beest goes away for one or two nights by himself to paintball. Does that count?

plthijinx 03-08-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by limey (Post 714133)
"Longer than fuck-all" to me would imply not very long, as fuck-all is not very much. (i.e. "There's fuck all to eat in the house and I'm starrrrrrrrvin'!").
Then again, I am from a nation which says "Not half" to mean "Lots" ....

alright then how about this then...


In the days of the Depression, a family had trapped a few ducks. As they needed some things only money could buy, the father requested his three sons take a duck each and travel around trying to sell them. They agreed and headed off on seperate ways.

The youngest of them knocked on the door of a nearby farm house and a shapely young blonde farm girl answered the door.

"S'cuse me ma'am" said the guy. "I'm wunderin' if y'd be intrested in buyin this here duck frum me". The woman replied "I'd sure like me that plump duck to cook fur our supper, but I aint got no money to spare". "How about a fuck for it?" she asked. The man didn't hesitate and replied "Sure!".

After they'd done the deal, the lonely farm girl said "If'n yer fuck me again - ya can have the duck back".

So he did, and afterwards headed off along the road with the duck still under his arm. Soon a large truck roared past the man which frightened the duck so much that it jumped out of his arms and right under the wheels where it was squashed.

The truck driver stopped and got out to speak with the man who explained that he was out trying to get money for his family by selling the duck. The truck driver felt remorse and offered the guy a dollar for his trouble. The man agreed and headed for home with the money in his pocket.

That evening as they all gathered around the table, the father asked them how they did.

The first son replied "I done good pa, I got me three dollars fur my duck".

The second son replied "I done better 'n him pa, I got five dollars".

Then the third son leaned back in his chair showing a cheeky grin and said "I done better 'n all uf yers, I got a fuck for a duck, a duck for a fuck and a buck for a fucked up duck!".

monster 03-21-2011 08:53 PM

I need the proper American term for the big chain stores you see in every mall/shopping area across the country. I was using the phrase "high street stores", but after 6 years, someone finally said "that's a bit British, but I know what you mean". I don't want to sound British on this occasion. Someone tell me what to say? I want a term for stores like Gap, Bed bath and beyond, American Eagle, Cabelas, Best Buy, Old Navy, Panera, Starbucks, ToysRUs, Macys, Chipotle..... the small and large chain stores that are everywhere.

tia

Undertoad 03-21-2011 08:58 PM

big-box stores

monster 03-21-2011 09:00 PM

but they're not all big box stores. Starbucks... chipotle..... American Eagle....?

monster 03-21-2011 09:01 PM

Mall Stores?

sexobon 03-22-2011 05:38 AM

We have a tendency to distinguish between chains that sell general merchandise (often wholly corporate owned) and chains that sell other goods and services (often privately owned franchises). In common use, the terms "national stores/chain," regional stores/chain," and "local stores/chain" are aptly descriptive where "stores" denotes general merchandise [incl. specialization] while "chain" connotes either general merchandise; or, other goods (e.g. fast food) and services. So, "high street stores" = "national stores and [all other] chains." Otherwise, "mall retailers" works. The term "chain stores" [chain as an adjective rather than a noun] covers stores of any distribution size (national, regional, local) selling general merchandise; although, it is occasionally used to generically mean any chain ... which can be confusing even when in context. :2cents:

infinite monkey 03-22-2011 07:08 AM

Here's my take: in a mall, the anchor stores (such as JC Penney, Sears, Elder Beerman, Macy's) are Department Stores. The smaller stores around the mall are retail stores. The big area where all the food places are is the food court. The little (or big) booths in the middle are kiosks.

Strip malls (all in a line and you walk outside to get to each one) are pretty much the same, without the kiosks.

I consider big box stores to be the Wally Worlds and Targets. Strip malls typically use one of these types as the "anchor" store.

Spexxvet 03-22-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 717923)
Here's my take: in a mall, the anchor stores (such as JC Penney, Sears, Elder Beerman, Macy's) are Department Stores. The smaller stores around the mall are retail stores. The big area where all the food places are is the food court. The little (or big) booths in the middle are kiosks.

Strip malls (all in a line and you walk outside to get to each one) are pretty much the same, without the kiosks.

I consider big box stores to be the Wally Worlds and Targets. Strip malls typically use one of these types as the "anchor" store.

Yes, except that the smaller stores are referred to as "specialty retail" because they usually specialize in a product (shoe store, women's clothing store).

monster 03-22-2011 11:52 AM

You're not making my life easier. I think I'm going to have to go with just chain stores. But that's usually used as a bad term rather than a good one. ah well

glatt 03-22-2011 12:18 PM

I call them "stores."

footfootfoot 03-22-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 714063)
a fuck-off long truck.


♫ Longer trucks are coming to fuck us
They're coming to fuck us, they're coming to fuck us
Longer trucks are coming to fuck us
Hold on to my coors, they'll be picking my ass from the floor ♫

Pete Zicato 03-22-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 717957)
You're not making my life easier. I think I'm going to have to go with just chain stores. But that's usually used as a bad term rather than a good one. ah well

I guess I don't get what a High Street store is. I looked at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Street, but it doesn't seem to help much.

If it's any ubiquitous store, then I don't think we have a common term for that. Maybe Main Street store would work, but I've never heard anyone use the term.

I tolerate McMall stores, but I regret the homogenization of the US and the world.

Clodfobble 03-22-2011 01:11 PM

"Major retailers" sounds nicer than "chain stores."

Pete Zicato 03-22-2011 01:37 PM

Maj. Eaton: We have major retailers working on it now.
Indiana: Who?
Maj. Eaton: Major... Retailers.

Sundae 03-22-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 717975)
If it's any ubiquitous store, then I don't think we have a common term for that. Maybe Main Street store would work, but I've never heard anyone use the term.

I tolerate McMall stores, but I regret the homogenization of the US and the world.

I've tried to shop locally for years.
Mostly for financial reasons.
I assume many, many people have decided to throw in their lot with the multiples for the same reason - it's a financially viable way to raise a family.

For example I couldn't shop like Monster because I have no car and buying in bulk is not reasonable for a single person. I can save money by buying small amounts of fresh food, because multipacks would go off and be wasted. Sometimes this means a small piece of a high-end treat, sometimes it just means compromise.

I remember the hours we spent shopping when I was a child, going to each independent shop, and pulling the shopping trolley a mile home. I still do the trip home, but due to lack of choice it's all from a supermarket. And I wish it was larger so we had a better deli/ butcher/ fish counter/ bakery. Instead I hang around the discounted section :)

I pine for the choice of my youth, but I acknowledge it would work out too expensive for me, and impractical financially too. They're still there though. especially on the t'internet. And they deliver.

Undertoad 03-22-2011 02:53 PM

I have been thinking about making a video of how retailing is changing in the US, because I know it will be a shock to our EUers. The trend is towards HUGE areas of land taken up by multiple HUGE box stores of 50-200,000 square feet each. (here I am addressing the EUers and I can't be bothered to do the metric) In the one being built next around here, it will also contain residential blocks... to which I say, live where you shop, it may be an improvement in some ways, but in other ways things are getting really WEIRD.

Edit: 4645 m^2 to 18581 m^2 (square meters)

Sundae 03-22-2011 02:55 PM

We still use square feet in the UK, don't worry, we're bi-lingual.

That's fucking massive.

Big Sarge 03-22-2011 03:02 PM

Uk is "bi"?

monster 03-22-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 717984)
"Major retailers" sounds nicer than "chain stores."

bingo. I just used "mall stores" not minutes ago, and saved but I haven't sent it yet. that will do nicely, thanks

toranokaze 03-22-2011 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 717882)
I need the proper American term for the big chain stores you see in every mall/shopping area across the country. I was using the phrase "high street stores", but after 6 years, someone finally said "that's a bit British, but I know what you mean". I don't want to sound British on this occasion. Someone tell me what to say? I want a term for stores like Gap, Bed bath and beyond, American Eagle, Cabelas, Best Buy, Old Navy, Panera, Starbucks, ToysRUs, Macys, Chipotle..... the small and large chain stores that are everywhere.

tia

They are just stores.

Non chain stores are mom&pop
Largequanity ie sam's club are big box
a store that also sells gas are stop 'n robs

monster 03-22-2011 10:48 PM

don't call us, we'll call you....

toranokaze 03-22-2011 10:53 PM

As if I didn't hear that enough

Sundae 10-06-2011 04:00 PM

I just have problems in the Cracked.com Photoplasty threads.
I scroll through, saying sulkily "I don't get it. Nope, don't get that one. Oh, get that one but it's not funny" etc.

Some of it is my ignorance of films and games. I will avoid specific Cracked threads, knowing I will won't get them but of course being an online community, references sneak in.

Anyone at all interested in acting as a translator PLEASE step forward.
I won't link to individual pictures (I don't know if I even can) but I can advise you of the contest and which numbers are baffling me.

And just in case anyone is kind enough to help (or rub my nose in being an ignorant furriner!) here are a few starters.

20 Instructional Signs That Must Exist in Movie Universes
#2 - No-one allowed anywhere but one black figure on one side and two white on the other.

Pretty good thread actually. Ease in gradually.

12 Awkward Moments That Must Have Happened
#8 - I get they were married and divorced, but is the setting significant?
#7 - has JH just set himself on fire? Did he set guitars on fire?
#6 - is this just because she saw his cock or am I missing something more sublte?
#5 - do not get

If Everything Got An Adorable Mascot
#9 - Russian Assassin? Is that a well known field?

But dy'know what?
When I revisited some I found I could work them out. Lazy, lazy me.
I guess I don't try too hard when it comes to internet humour...

monster 10-06-2011 08:30 PM

Can't help you. Maybe they're just not really funny. People who don't visit Teh Cellar can be humor-impaired.

Gravdigr 05-09-2017 04:31 PM

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