Is suicide more selfish than an expectation that someone in unbearable pain keep on living for whatever need they fill in us? To me, that expectation is far more selfish than suicide.

IMHO, suicide is killing. It's a killing of the self.
Of course we back away from those who kill - murderers!!! But people have and will kill in ways that society has sanctioned. The hangman, the soldier, the policeman.

The vast majority of people that kill take no pleasure in their acts.
Did WWI or WWII veterans come back just to be called serial killers?

So suicides should at least be granted the disparity of their own reasons.
Not all killing is violent. Not all suicide is revenge.
And sometimes it feels like a reasonable cessation.

That said, I still miss Brianna and need her more now than I did then. I still find it hard to believe I won't hear her voice again. Life moves on and we grieve and live and it feels like a betrayal.

Sorry. Probably the wrong thread for this.

No Sundae it had to be said.

It seems to me that divorce is like suicide from a marriage, but instead of being dead, you get to go and live your life more happily. I think that's selfish.

I suppose you could argue that breathing is selfish. I breathe without even thinking, but I do it only for self serving reasons.

I think divorce is more like the funeral after the death.

Richard Attenborough

90 is a ripe old age, though

I suspect you're viewing divorce from a personal point of view that doesn't encompass other situations. At least, I hope so.

when I told beest about Dickie, he told me Iyengar just died at an even riper old age. I totally missed that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/w...guru/14324985/

I thought "Iyengar?! Who the hell is Iyengar?"

But then I clicked the link.

I didn't know who he was, but, I knew his face. Somehow.

He's the guy that made it more difficult to please a sex partner.
Because of him, people could get into even more positions.
Downward Facing Dog, my ass!

:D

:lol2:

Bless your Upward-Facing Ass.

Iyengarna tell you

Veteran character actor Stephen Lee is dead at 58.

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This guy played in everything that was ever on television.

Bill Kerr, Australian actor and radio star, dies aged 92

He was ninety-one when he recorded the 'Shooting of Dan McGrew' without script or autocue. Post 238 (Scroll down)

RIP Joan Rivers. Parts of you were too young to die.

Ach. Bummer.

I liked that guy.

I always thought Richard Kiel looked to be in extreme pain.

word

Joe Sample is dead at 75.

Fuck cancer.

I never knew about all his accomplishments. RIP Mr. Holder.

http://www.broadwayworld.com/article...t-84-20141006#

He was a very impressive dude, just seeing him because of his impressive size and that controlled presence dancers have, plus that commanding voice. He probably could have started half a dozen central American revolutions if he had wanted to. :vader1:

Famous around these parts only is the legendary sports announcer Bill Campbell.

Paul Revere (of the Raiders) died the other day. 76 years old.

Jan Hooks. Only 57. Sad.

Well that's just fucking sad. :( She was very funny.

Damn. That was a surprise.

Clang, clang, clang, went the trolley.

Pssst. That's not the trolley.

We're sad to report actress Elizabeth Peña, perhaps best known for 'Jacob's Ladder', 'La Bamba', and 'The Incredibles' has passed away at age 55. Rest in peace. http://imdb.to/1w9enAq

That's a bit of a shock.

Linda Belligham

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29685903


Only last week or so I read an article where she said she was stopping treatment and hoped to die peacefully in January, so I'm kind of shocked it happened so soon

Now I'll have to rething my 2015 pool list.... :eek:



I saw an article asking people if the thought ebola or ISIS was the bigger threat to America. It pointed out that statistically they should be more worried about cancer. (and moving large furniture)

Cure Cancer. (I'm sick of the "Fuck Cancer" thing)

Ben Bradlee

Ben Bradlee, the editor of the Washington Post during the Watergate scandal that toppled President Richard Nixon, has died aged 93.


BBC Link

This morning, the Washington Post gave him the front page above the fold and like 7-8 pages in the A section. I wonder how many they gave US Presidents when they died? Can't remember.

Reminds me of when I was on yearbook staff in high school, I was able to get photos of all my siblings into the yearbook, while the year before, when I wasn't on the staff, none of us were in there.

Bradlee bows out
 

We are all flawed...

The Times

:lol2:

Legendary bass man Jack Bruce is dead at 71.

:mecry:

Bummer.

Maybe his album I bought in 1962 will be worth something. :rolleyes:

Car Talk host Tom Magliozzi dies at 77.

RIP.

Tom Magliozzi

Tom Magliozzi, Popular Co-Host Of NPR's 'Car Talk,' Dies At 77

I always listened to Car Talk on my trips to the US and subsequently on the Internet.

The great thing about about that programme was that you didn't have to have any interest in cars in order to enjoy it. The infectious laughter and banter was what made it.

RIP Old chap.


Posted at the same time as BigV.

Hey, did you guys hear that Tom Magli--oh, you did.

~Tom Magliozzi

I was surprised to read that he had worked until 2012 and died of Alzheimers. That's a very short time compared with most.

I loved that show whenever I listened to it and I don't even drive.

I was surprised as well, but if he just sat there and chuckled while his brother did the talking, I can see how that might work.

It's also common with Alzheimer's to remember old stuff just fine, it's the new memories that don't stick. They can't find their way home, but can tell you with precise detail how to get to the house they grew up in. Maybe he remembered the car stuff longer than the rest of it.

WSS^

RIP Mike Nichols. Thank you for directing (and producing, in some cases) so many wonderful films such as (partial list):

2007 Charlie Wilson's War
2004 Closer
1998 Primary Colors
1996 The Birdcage
1991 Regarding Henry
1990 Postcards from the Edge
1988 Working Girl
1988 Biloxi Blues
1986 Heartburn
1983 Silkwood
1971 Carnal Knowledge
1970 Catch-22
1967 The Graduate
1966 Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

Those of us who live in the land of FilmBuffington mark this a very sad day, indeed. :(

Her titles are too long for this title
 

RIP Duchess of Alba.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6193470.html

Ha!

PD James and Phillip Hughes

terribly sad for Hughes' family. Imagine what the bowler must be going through, I'm guessing cricket doesn't have the same phenomena of pitchers intentionally hitting batters like we do here.

~PD James

I just recently got a PD James novel out of the library because she sounded like an author I might enjoy, but I just couldn't get into it, so I returned it mostly unread. Maybe I'll try again

PD James. :sniff:

Bobby Keys:

http://pitchfork.com/news/57674-bobb...nist-has-died/

Paul Ferrara has left the building

Paul Ferrara, drummer for Al Hirt and Louis Prima, has died at 76