Not actually pictures of the roof, but pictures of the roof. The weather that makes the scary dangerous rain does make for pretty skies and pretty sunsets.

Pic 01: Downtown Seattle.

Pic 02: Mount Ranier.

Sky!

Pic 01: Pretty rainbow.

Pic 02: Pretty cloud.

no. I am not handy. On your scale, I'd probably be a minus-5--total klutz.

And I've tried. Repeatedly. I can read and follow instructions, no problem, but I don't have that instinctive handiness that some people have.

But I'm crafty and creative, so I just go with my strengths and pay people to do what I can't or won't do.

Like clean. :)

Shit Shawnee - thats me.

At High School we had to take Cooking n Sewing. I'm a good cook and I like to cook....so an A there, but sewing.....big E.

Following year I swapped to Auto Prac, Sheet Metal and Woodwork. Back to my straight A's.

I'm pretty handy, I'd probably class myself as a 3-4.

I can weld, change spark plugs, brakes, have rebuilt a gearbox and helped my brothers do many changeover engines.

I can use a chainsaw, a router, a jigsaw etc

My mum is awesome, she has taught me all my home handy women skills.

I'm pretty geeky too, I just wired my house for wireless networking and my sound system now plays into all the rooms via wired speakers :)

My set top box has my arse kicked though...I think I will have to get a Antenna dude out to have a look see.

I SUCK at anything crafty....well.. I can and have done ceramics but can only seem to paint florally scenes though.

I'm trying to figure out why you nail down a shitload of pieces, along the straight edges, instead of using a 9 inch wide strip? It would be a hell of a lot easier to cut 9 inches off the end of a roll, plus no seams/joints.

now say that a bunch of times real fast!

Are you talking about the valley reinforcement? The overlapping pieces make it stronger, where the run-off is heaviest. The seams are okay, since they go downward with the water flow.

No, I'm talking about the edges. There is no reason that couldn't be a 9 inch wide strip.

I think I see what you're saying...except that trying to nail down a long strip like that would be a pain. You'd have to make sure it stays straight along the edge as you go. The asphalt will cover the seams of the pieces.

Not at all, nail one end straighten it out and nail the other end. Then just nail on down the line, piece of cake.

LOL bruce you can't do that, you have to make sure it's tight all the way down.

That's why he has to nail it down the line, two rows of nails, one inch in from the edges, spaced four inches apart. What the hell difference does it make if it's one piece.

It's easier to align if it's in smaller pieces!

C'mon, you build stuff--you know it's true.

No it is not. You can't tell me it's easier to align a dozen short pieces of anything than one long one. Without a chalk line or string line it's not going to be straight anyway. The strip going on top is one piece which will make any unevenness is the bottom course look like shit.

Okay, that's the problem--you're worried about the way it's going to look, which I can understand in your line of work. In the case of a roof, it has to be very functional and long-wearing, i.e. tight and sealed.