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xoxoxoBruce 02-18-2016 12:08 PM

Yes, I've heard them interviewed, and all they say is the rogue cops are killing blacks, predominately men and boys, indiscriminately. I've yet to hear them bitch about anyone else being targeted.

Happy Monkey 02-18-2016 01:25 PM

Have you heard them say that it's OK for cops to kill white people indiscriminately?

sexobon 02-18-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 953791)
'Black lives matter as much as white lives do' doesn't fit as easily, or as snappily for a campaign name. But I've always thought the rest of the sentence is implied. ...

... Seriously, getting angry at the Black Lives Matter people for excluding you as a white person from their message is a bit fucked up imo. ...

The phrase is race-centric. It's a phrase of exclusion. It's political spin.

Black Lives Matter Too would be a phrase that's inclusive. To extrapolate the actual phrase in use to mean inclusiveness of other lives is a red herring imHo:

Black Lives Don't Matter Any less Than Anyone Else's
Black Lives Don't Matter Any less Than Anyone Else's
Black Lives Don't Matter Any less Than Anyone Else's
Black Lives Don't Matter Any less Than Anyone Else's
Black Lives Don't Matter Any less Than Anyone Else's
Black Lives Don't Matter Any less Than Anyone Else's
Black Lives Don't Matter Any less Than Anyone Else's

tw 02-18-2016 10:57 PM

All soundbyte rhetoric. Which cops are doing their jobs and which are adults still acting like children?

xoxoxoBruce 02-19-2016 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 953811)
Have you heard them say that it's OK for cops to kill white people indiscriminately?

Nope, don't even mention white, yellow, red, or plaid, at all.

Happy Monkey 07-14-2016 12:31 AM


BigV 07-15-2016 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 964641)

Thank you.

DanaC 07-16-2016 05:08 AM

Brilliant video.

sexobon 07-16-2016 08:10 AM

Black lives don't matter any less than anyone else's.

classicman 07-16-2016 09:31 AM

No lives matter... unless they want your vote.

Undertoad 07-16-2016 10:11 AM

Sandra Bland committed suicide in her cell after assaulting a cop. After a few days, video evidence proved it. But at the time, people were really hungry for examples to be outraged about, and here was this hanging...

So now she's crowbarred into the narrative every time. Facts don't matter. Actually they do and the game is to pick the facts that support your narrative and just avoid the facts that don't. Pretty soon you "just know what happened" and the facts don't actually matter to anyone.

Y'all eat that shit up. Enjoy. I know it tastes great and you get to feel that oh so self-righteous satisfied feeling of being on the right side and being a part of it all. You care harder.

And that's good, and important. Empathy is in short supply in the world. But it's not the only thing that's good and important.


"Close your eyes, close your ears young man
You've seen and heard all an old man can
Spread the facts on the floor like a fan
Throw away the ones that make you feel bad"
-- Ben Folds "Bastard"

Big Sarge 07-17-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 964641)

Bull shit. Inflammatory bull shit. Crap like this is what helps escalate the racial divide in our country.

Happy Monkey 07-17-2016 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 964759)
Sandra Bland committed suicide in her cell after assaulting a cop. After a few days, video evidence proved it. But at the time, people were really hungry for examples to be outraged about, and here was this hanging...

Video evidence did not prove either of those things. The claimed assault occurred after he moved her out of camera view, and the motion controlled camera wasn't pointed in her cell.

Now, it's entirely possible that she did kick him off camera, and I consider it extremely likely that she did commit suicide, but your strong claim that video evidence proved it makes your next sentence a bit ironic.
Quote:

So now she's crowbarred into the narrative every time. Facts don't matter. Actually they do and the game is to pick the facts that support your narrative and just avoid the facts that don't. Pretty soon you "just know what happened" and the facts don't actually matter to anyone.
Whereas you discount the entire video after finding one way that you interpret the facts differently from Vi.
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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 964808)
Bull shit. Inflammatory bull shit. Crap like this is what helps escalate the racial divide in our country.

And you didn't even bother to do that.

sexobon 07-18-2016 12:42 AM

It's a propaganda piece that takes 9 minutes 41 seconds to mix truths with half truths trying; but, FAILING to rationalize using a race-centric phrase that in itself causes divisiveness. Stupid is as stupid does.

I was able to accomplish what it failed to do, rationalize a race-centric phrase that in itself causes divisiveness, without using propaganda technique and with just 5 words: Black lives don't matter any less than anyone else's.


It took the Doctor 6 words to depose Prime Minister Harriet Jones ... amateur.

Big Sarge 07-18-2016 02:53 AM

Victoria Hart is a mathematician known for making educational videos. She isn't a sociologist, anthropologist, or even experienced criminal justice professional. Let us break down her video.

Her claims the Black Lives Movement have concrete plans are ludicrous. I have heard everything espoused from having only black police officers to patrol urban areas to no police presence in some neighborhoods. These are the same groups that have called for the removal of body armor from police. BTW, which BLM group do we listen to? Who is there leader? Is it Shaun King who has clearly been identified as a white male pretending to be African-American?


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