Governor rejected the plan. Looks like courts will change those voting borders because state house and senate have too many wacko extremists. Only moderates can get something useful done.

Gerrymandering means moderates cannot get elected to a Congress. So courts must fix it. Expect wacko extremists talk show hosts to bad mouth the courts - since wacko extremists voters worship talk show hosts and hate moderates.

My district is worse, is Philly better?

too many counties broken up and we keep that fuckface Marino... maybe more competitive though which would be the end of the troll

Philadelphia detail:

http://cellar.org/2017/wolfphillymap.jpg

I realize now how hard it is for us nincompoops to figure out whether the map is fair. The GOP one looked more fair at first, but failed a lot of deeper analysis.

It's weird how this one does divvy up Delaware County's reds and blues.

Gov. Wolf brought in a Tufts U. Expert to say that it was fair. Apparently the map "showed no partisan skew when compared to more than a billion randomly generated maps."

(That actually sets off a skepticism alarm bell in my head, because I don't know whether "average" compared to "random" is what is needed. Certainly a *directed* computer-generated map could easily divvy up the state 50-50. Certainly a *random* computer-generated map will draw up a lot of 50-50s. How far off 50-50 does the map need to be, to be considered non-partisan? 52-48 may be statistically average, but it wins elections.)

The bad news: after the next census, a new map will almost certainly be required...

There have long been well proven mathematical statistics for defining what is fair verses what is partisan. Existing districting was measured by these numbers as massively partisan. All conversations about what is fair and what is not, without numbers, can only be subjective. Subjective means useless. A numerical specification must exist - and it has for a long time. But too many want to discuss this stuff using a subjective (also called emotional) perspective. Then the problem is never defined and nothing is solved.

What struck me was that the Tufts U Mathematician had advocated ways of preventing gerrymandering using math ... but this particular Monte Carlo method wasn't one of the ways she advocated (AFAIK, after a quick review).

As near as I can tell I'd be in 6 instead of 1 on the Wolf map.

Does not matter. I believe the courts will now define districts because to many politicians are wacko extremists - not moderates. Only moderates can hammer out solutions.

Supremes released a new map.

Phila closeup (it's an image, don't use the + and - controls)

http://cellar.org/2017/court-map-phila.png

My district includes State College now...

So now the Times is saying that the math is in, and by this method of determining whether a map is fair, the new map isn't:

http://cellar.org/2017/newmapsimulations.png

But maybe it's tricky and we don't understand it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/u...ania-maps.html

This NYT article breaks it down district by district.