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Lamplighter 01-24-2012 04:43 PM

My guy can beat your guy...
 
The State of the Union address will be delivered by the President tonight at 9 pm EST.
The pundits are saying Obama will use this as an opportunity to deliver more of a campaign speech than the traditional address.
If so, this will be the beginning of the 2012 Presidential campaign, and perhaps deserves of a new thread.

And besides all that:

Sadly, Stephen Colbert has suspended his campaign, so now it's
just between my guy and the Republican ( :lol2:) candidates.

classicman 01-24-2012 04:48 PM

My guy can will beat your guy...

ftfy

piercehawkeye45 01-24-2012 04:53 PM

Wrong! :rolleyes:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...-romney/47793/

classicman 01-24-2012 08:37 PM

huh? Who is gonna beat O?

piercehawkeye45 01-24-2012 10:47 PM

No one.

tw 01-24-2012 11:03 PM

From what I hear (I did not watch it), Congress did not like the cheerleading and scolding that was well deserved. Congressmen promoted by Limbaugh, et al were told to make America fail so that Obama would fail. That has been the Congressional mandate especially this last two years.

It was a reporters observation. Congressmen do not leave as fast as they did this time. Because Obama told them what patriotic Americans do. And what Congress is not doing.

HungLikeJesus 01-24-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 790503)
huh? Who is gonna beat O?

J?

classicman 01-25-2012 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 790473)
My guy can will beat your guy...
ftfy

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 790474)

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 790503)
huh? Who is gonna beat O?

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 790518)
No one.

That was my point.

infinite monkey 01-25-2012 07:47 AM

OBAMA ROCKS IT!

Makes me proud to be an American again.

piercehawkeye45 01-25-2012 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 790542)
That was my point.

I know. I was being sarcastic when I said wrong. The article I posted basically says that both Romney and Gingrich have disapproval ratings above 50%. Continuing at this pace, Obama just has to not mess up at this point.

classicman 01-25-2012 07:53 AM

Obama has to be the best public speaker that I've ever seen. Watching Mitch Daniels afterward was ... well just sad.
And Mitch Daniels is a good speaker as well.
Just not in the same class as O. I can see why many wanted him to run this year.
The other two, three or four still running have very little chance of doing anything.
This is totally O's to lose, and I just can't see that happening.

Lamplighter 01-25-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 790549)
OBAMA ROCKS IT!

Makes me proud to be an American again.

IM, great User Title ;)

tw 01-25-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 790552)
This is totally O's to lose, and I just can't see that happening.

Only one president has been reelected when unemployment was this massive. Reagan. Many forget the economic mess when Reagan was reelected.

Most people vote based upon their feelings - ie how wealthy they feel. Therefore, as Clinton said, "its the economy stupid".

Most people, for example, forget a more than five plus years of pain necessary to fix it. Carter had interest rates rise massively to around 20% in the 1970s. Only then did jobs return in the mid-1980s. Most voter perspective is less than one year.

Reagan also kept saying how good things were even when they were not. That message is probably why Reagan is the only president relected when unemployment was massive.

piercehawkeye45 01-25-2012 06:17 PM

Plus Walter Mondale did stupid stuff....like tell the truth.

Lamplighter 01-25-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 790692)
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Most people, for example, forget a more than five plus years of pain necessary to fix it.
Carter had interest rates rise massively to around 20% in the 1970s. Only then did jobs return in the mid-1980s.
Most voter perspective is less than one year.

Reagan also kept saying how good things were even when they were not.
That message is probably why Reagan is the only president relected when unemployment was massive.

I've always felt sorry for Carter... so many things were out of his control.
Iran hostages, Oil embargo, S&L crisis, gas prices doubled, 3-mile island.
And so... unemployment and interest rates went up.

Reagan had nothing except and movie-star smile and 2 lines:
"There you go again" and "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago"



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