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sexobon 03-23-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1028878)
… Gonna listen to what they have to offer? ...

They found Trump and Putin stains on Hillary's blue dress?

BigV 03-23-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1028878)
AIYYO!! Yo yo YO!! How's everyone doin' this morning! Y'all have a good night's sleep?

Y'all on board with the mainstream media today? Gonna listen to what they have to offer? Y'all still angry and hyper-political?

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

tw 03-23-2019 11:08 PM

Plenty of backroom power politics may have been played this past four months. Or maybe the game plan was to have Whitaker withhold that report. Maybe he said he would not. So Barr was sworn in last month as the AG. This much is known. Plenty of political strategies have been played (secretly) or will be openly played in the next few months. The game is afoot.

Would like to know what Giuliani meant on Meet The Press when he said "tapes' prove Trump's innocence".

sexobon 03-23-2019 11:41 PM

Ah, but the tapes, that’s, that’s where he had them, they laughed at him and made jokes, but he proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, and with geometric logic, that collusion with the Russians did not exist, and he'd have produced that proof if they hadn’t erased the tapes out of misdirected loyalty. He, he knows now they were only trying to protect some fellow staffers. … Naturally, now he can only cover these things from memory. If he leaves anything out, why, just ask him specific questions and he'll be glad to tweet replies, one by one.

tw 03-24-2019 07:24 AM

An echo was heard:
"Mr. Butterfield, are you aware of the installation of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the president?"

xoxoxoBruce 03-24-2019 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1028926)
If he leaves anything out, why, just ask him specific questions and he'll be glad to tweet replies, one by one.

Which would take until after the next election at least, at 280 characters per. :rolleyes:

sexobon 03-24-2019 03:26 PM

UPDATE: WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department said Sunday that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation found President Donald Trump's campaign not gillcup of conspiring or coordinating with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election.

On obstructing justice, the special counsel found Trump to be covfefe.
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[paraphrasing mine]

slang 03-24-2019 04:35 PM

Yah, but...yah, but...yah, but...

We don't like him. So we have to keep fishing.

Let's just keep watching the show. It's just getting good now. :corn:

sexobon 03-24-2019 06:27 PM

We'll see whether or not this gives Trump a false sense of security. If he doesn't get that wall started before the next election, it's still going to be - Hit the road Jack.

MUSICAL INTERLUDE:


tw 03-24-2019 08:12 PM

This guy has an amazing ability to do so many questionable and unethical things. And always remain just this legal side of that line. Sometimes he is protected by throwing others under the bus.

Last week, Trump was apparently getting nervous. He was throwing shit against the wall to learn what would stick. He was tweeting furiously so many unrelated accusations. Bogus accusations even included renewed attacks on John McCain.

But this is the amazing part. Even subordinates were exonerated. Apparently Trump was not sure if he (or subordinates) had crossed that line. First indications from the Mueller report suggest nobody did - no matter how unethical their actions.

Undertoad 03-25-2019 09:18 AM

It was interesting to see Matt Taibbi liken this episode to the media failure on WMDs -- where again, the media bought into what the intelligence agencies had to say, based on what THEY wanted to do.

His piece It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD is remarkably footnoted (with links instead of footnotes)

Taibbi comes out looking good, as one of the lone reporters who was right about both items.

slang 03-25-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1028989)
His piece It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD is remarkably footnoted (with links instead of footnotes)

Wow. THAT is how it's done.

Flint 03-25-2019 03:41 PM

It's an indictment of the media!
...says the media in an article about the articles about the thing that this article is about also.

Griff 03-25-2019 04:21 PM

I told myself to trust Mueller's judgement. If he says the Russia "collusion" thing is a non-starter, it's a non-starter.

Flint 03-25-2019 05:20 PM

It seems like a more recent, and perhaps relevant comparison is that this is the new "Hillary has a 99% chance of winning." It appears that "the media" has a habit of misleading left-leaning voters into shooting themselves in the foot. Which would be a weird thing for "the liberal media" to do. If you thought that "liberal" meant on "the left" side of alignment.


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