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xoxoxoBruce 02-26-2016 07:59 AM

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For that money/time frame, I'd bet anything replaced was built as an exact duplicate except maybe better material. Besides, during it's service life of 60 years and 3.3 million km, I'm sure a lot of parts have been replaced... at least once. I wonder about the "blinders", they're on at Doncaster, but not in service or on tour in the US, although she wore a head light in CA.
Oh my, Boston in '69 was sweet.

Carruthers 02-26-2016 08:40 AM


I wonder about the "blinders", they're on at Doncaster, but not in service or on tour in the US, although she wore a head light in CA.
Oh my, Boston in '69 was sweet.
It seems that the recent restoration effort has returned the loco to the format it had during its service with the nationalised (1947) British Railways, including smoke deflectors and serial number 60103.
Prior to that, it spent much of its preserved life as 4472 of the London North Eastern Railway.
I had a vague recollection of 4472 being stranded in the US when the owner, Alan Pegler, was declared bankrupt and there's a comprehensive account of that episode on Wikipedia.
Adaptations required for the US tour are listed as:


...a cowcatcher, bell, buckeye couplings, American-style whistle, air brakes, and high-intensity headlamp
Flying Scotsman - Wikipedia.

Carruthers 02-26-2016 09:14 AM

You wait 10 years for a train… then two come along at once!
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A trainspotter drove 50 miles and waited nearly an hour to see the Flying Scotsman yesterday - only for his view to be blocked by another train.

Ryan Allen, of Spilsby, Lincolnshire, thought he had set up at the perfect spot next to the East Coast Main Line in the village of Little Bytham.

However, he was left disappointed when a commuter train whizzed by at the exact moment the locomotive passed.

All that could be seen was the red and white body of the Virgin train, with the thick white smoke of the Flying Scotsman in behind it.

He tweeted his unfortunate moment in a video, saying: 'I had a feeling this would happen!'. It has since been retweeted more than 1,200 times.

However Virgin Trains, having unwittingly spoiled the view, have kindly offered a trip to Atlanta courtesy of Virgin Atlantic.

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Daily Mail

xoxoxoBruce 02-27-2016 09:54 PM

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Grasshopper kills 16 humans.

xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2016 01:54 AM

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Ad for the Flying Scotsman...

xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2016 10:57 AM

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Whoops. I wonder if they found him in the wreck with his hand on the throttle? :speechls:

xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2016 09:23 PM

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This engine is in Switzerland and I'd guess it was used on a steep incline.

glatt 03-02-2016 07:24 AM

The nose is sloped, but the passenger compartment is parallel to the rails. It's a bit different than funicular rail cars.

xoxoxoBruce 03-02-2016 08:31 AM

I wonder if that's a passenger compartment, or the cab of the engine?

Ah, it's a camel engine.

The Camelback was a design of steam locomotive developed in the late 19th century that could burn low-quality anthracite coal. Anthracite burns slowly with very little smoke, so railway engineer George Wootten created a large, wide firebox. This firebox was so tall it would block the view from the cab, so Wootten moved the driver's cab to a high position over the center of the boiler. This design of steam locomotive became known as "Camelback," "Center Cab," or "Mother Hubbard." It was very popular on the anthracite lines in the East, as it saved on fuel costs. But there were some problems. The first is that the fireman was more exposed to the elements. The second is that communication between the driver and fireman is more difficult. The third and most serious problem was that if the side rods were to break, they would destroy the cab and kill the driver, earning Camelbacks the nickname "Snappers." For this reason, Camelback engines were banned in 1918. One of them, Baltimore and Ohio 4-6-0 No. 305, is preserved in the B&O Railroad Museum.

Actually, it's a "Camel" locomotive, not a "Camelback". Camels had the cab atop the boiler, whereas Camelbacks straddled the boiler. The Camel was designed by Ross Winans, and the cab was placed atop the boiler to put more weight on the drivers, which helped when going over the Alleghenies. The Camelbacks were designed to accommodate the Wide Wooten Fireboxes, which necessitated putting the cab around the boiler. There is a Camelback at the museum- the CNJ #592. BTW, this might look strange, but it was very very effective.
So it was for inclines, but not the same type as the lenticular mountain climbers.

BigV 03-02-2016 09:38 AM

Funicular, not lenticular.

xoxoxoBruce 03-02-2016 10:05 AM

Yes, I was checking to see if you were paying attention... that's my story and I'm sticking to it... unless of course someone questions it, then I'll come up with a new one. :blush:

BigV 03-02-2016 06:43 PM


I try to pay attention.

xoxoxoBruce 03-03-2016 10:09 PM

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I guess this one is sort of a dirty kind.

xoxoxoBruce 03-04-2016 04:53 PM

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Line 'em up... impress the press.

xoxoxoBruce 03-06-2016 10:23 AM

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I stumbled on the B&O Museum in Baltimore...

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