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Please STOP posting shit like that. Its really old, tired and inaccurate.

I stand on my own with my own opinions, beliefs and thoughts.
Thanks, in advance.

and funny as all fuck when it gets a reaction :lol:

OK, point taken

mine or the "bitch's"? :neutral:

If mine, thanks.

The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994.
Link

It's lovely how the line moves lower during Clinton's higher-tax period, then rises during Bush's tax cuts. "Lower taxes to reduce unemployment" is bullshit.

It appears as though it was decreasing from 2003 to 2008 as well, but you missed the point of the graph.
They were showing the difference in calculations of the actual number of unemployed. According to this data, its over 20%, not 9%

We need BigV to plot the first derivative of those data.

I predict two spikes, GWB takes office and GWB leaves office

Lamp, try viewing this link ... I found it pretty interesting.
I tried to save it to post, but couldn't.

I think your link shows a 5% average over a much longer time period,
which was one goal/assumption of the Fed,
and is reflected in the graph above, until 2001 ;)

The higher rates in earlier years also coincide with higher oil prices (crisis) of the 70's

It's always fun and games with stats...

I didn't miss it. I transcended it. I looked beyond and gleaned additional wisdom. I stepped past the mundane, dare I say the pedestrian, information that was blatant and inferred more knowledge than you presented with your superficial graph. I AM THE 99%!

^^ Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ^^

Very good spexxie. That was really funny.
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Did you look at the link? It was interesting to see the trends over the longer time-frame, well right up until ...

I'll be here all week. Try the mutton.

It's interesting that LBJ is the only president who didn't have a major spike (Carter had a small upturn at the end). Many people would think that LBJ would have had a huge increase in unemployment - he implemented The Great Society. People would recieve compensation even when they weren't working. Haven't conservatives asserted that this would cause lazy minorities to quit their jobs and go on the dole? It doesn't seem to have happened that way.

From 37 banks to 4 in 13 years. Hmmm

One might think they need to be broken up.

" ... and the control of wealth will fall into fewer and fewer hands ... eventually into a form in which it can be seized by the proletariat...."

Marx was at least half right. I'm quite interested to see what will happen over the next few decades.

Sadly, I believe this is exactly what will be happening in every industry.
Corporations will buy/merge/consume each other until they dominate the "market share"

I think I allude to this somewhere in my signature below.

Isn't this what happens, almost by design, in an unchecked capitalistic/cannibalistic society?

Well, philosophically I believe things are different with corporations than partnerships and companies.
With the corps, the CEO, Bd of Dir, etc are just "employee" bodies passing through.

With other forms of business the owners are integral to the life of the company.
Family businesses or partnerships get dispersed or sold off, and the business dissolves,
OR... is bought up by a corporation !

When they own the government and are able to stifle competition that will happen. I think somebody needs to run on the old TR "trust buster" platform but now that media is suffering from the same malady, I have little hope for it. We may well end up with a completely stagnant society.

Where's PNC? Where's TD Bank?

PNC (Pittsburgh National ?) may be considered too small
TD Bank is Canadian (It is 2nd largest in Canada)

Is this a natural trend?

I think yes. Wealth accumulates. If nothing is done about it, this will keep going, until it cannot go any further.

Do we have to sit back and let it happen?

No.
The modern economy is something we have created, a lot by individual and corporate activities, and also a lot by governments creating sets of rules that make a stable society and complex finance possible. We can adjust the rules. We should just remember that we are tinkering with a complex, chaotic system and unintended consequences are pretty much certain, as is the further exploitation of whatever changes we make.

Here is an early symptom of retail-market saturation.
There's only so much $ to spend on X-mas.
So retailers' tactics are to get it first, before it's spent elsewhere.

USA Today
Nov 5, 2011

Why wait until Black Friday? Retailers tout big deals early
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another reason to legalize pot

:thumb: The gooberment will eventually control all of them.

It's the corporations that will own everything.

Yesterday, there was an hour-long TY program about the Pepsico Corp.
The CEO, Indra Nooyi, make a remark something like:

If you put it in your stomach, I want Pepsico to sell it to you.

Corps may own it. The current Gobberment aims to control it. Oh, and make themselves rich along the way. There's your 1%.

That graph is interesting but it needs a third axis.

It is right to consider the risk of dependency and the risk of overdose, but there is also the risk of being mentally screwed up by it without either dependency or overdose.

According to this graph, LSD is the safest drug there is, much safer than caffeine. :headshake

Yeah, or just a chance-to-fuck-up-your-life axis; with NO2 and caffeine at the bottom, weed and MDMA in the low middle, nicotine in the middle, coke and alcohol in the high middle, and meth and the opiates at the top.

(i guess?)

Ephedra, is that the weight loss stuff?

I'm so gettin' on that.

Oglability trumps health, any day.

I think it's the over the counter cold remedy. Maybe Pseudophed? Used to make Meth.

Oh. Don't want meth. I'd be skinny but look like death heated up. Pocky. No thanks.

Don't forget the meth teeth. :greenface

She's got lots of mystique already. Why are you lithping?

Seven degrees to Kevin Bacon is a being lazy.
Facebook says it's less than 5 hops for the whole world.

Facebook
Of course, the 5,316 members of THE CELLAR, made it much shorter. :grouphug:
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If facebook used their own data, then it makes you wonder what would happen if you got rid of all those people with thousands of "friends" on facebook. Those FB sluts are doing all the connecting. The rest of us with 100 or so friends are probably 20 degrees of separation from the rest of the world instead of only 5 degrees away.

So the world is getting closer primarily due to farmville and mafia wars?

And let's not forget that the original assertion was anyone in the world, not just anyone with a computer fast enough to run social media. You're supposed to be connected to that guy in the jungle village too. Well, slang's got a lot of the Philippines covered for us, anyway.

Don't forget Arab Spring... four more hops to Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.

I find it very interesting how those graphs are virtually flat to three hops and then have a huge spike at four hops. I would have expected a more parabolic curve.

I guess it decreases after that because most pairs have already been matched.

... dunno how accurate this is, but damn!

I dispute that Vet Affairs is either discretionary or really military. It is the post-service OBLIGATIONS required by the contract with military personnel.

And given the experiences of Cellar veterans, no-one could say it is over funded.

Now, about the other military expenses....

Say, did you guys know that you're about to station 2,500 marines in Darwin, Australia. Damned if I know why.

Yep and China is pissed about it too.

Well they had a little spit, but nothing more than would be expected.

I suspect it will be used to get your fellas trained in tropical conditions. Its also a general expression of being allies.

I'm sure the entertainment industry will be happy. We might need to bring back the Top End Stubbie - a single serve bottle of beer that holds 2.2 litres.

OMG 2.2 L is 0.6 US gal. :drunk:

Say, did you guys know that you're about to station 2,500 marines in Darwin, Australia. Damned if I know why.
Yep and China is pissed about it too.

Thats Why

The 'War on Terror' is ongoing in Seychelles and the Philippines, that I know of, and probably a dozen I don't.

http://www.tallglass.com/projects/beersize/

This is a good chart for comparing your beer sizes, but the 2.2 L doesn't get a mention. Maybe Zen should contact them.

To be poised and ready when France surrenders Viet Nam. ;)

So why doesn't Australia have a base in the US?

And Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation in the world.

Alas, the "top end stubby" was phased out a few years ago. It was a bit hard to drink it before it got warm.

I looked on youtube with no luck, but years ago I saw on TV a semi-pet Brahmin bull would walk into a bar (really), pick one of those bottles up with its mouth, tip it back, and sink the lot in about four seconds.

It's probably best not to think about what might happen next. Although, this might be why we need 2,500 marines. :)

Since the USMC learned their basic tactics from an Aussie back in The Great War, maybe they're there for a refresher.

Crocodile wrestling practise?

A top secret mission involving kangaroos?

I don't know what commercial you saw but this might be the bull, and this might be the bottle.

" ... the win left him $500 better off " [... after one helluva belch] :)

Hmmmm ... maybe my memory had one of those beers.
I definitely remember a TV news snippet with the bull in the front bar, and I'm sure he drank it in WELL under a minute. I'll go up to 15 seconds, max.

Seems we have a bunch of alcoholic cattle up north. Not one of them is on the (bullock) wagon.

But they do like their beers cold. Friesian, even.

Griff just posted an interesting graph showing
daylight hours of light during the year vs latitude.

Does the equator area demonstrate the tilt of the earth towards the sun ?

Check it out...