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Undertoad 03-16-2019 01:43 AM

Forgot to recognize Mark Hollis, of Talk Talk, who died 2 weeks ago.

Back in the day, we hated musicians who would sell out - take their artistic success and flatten it for a commercial success.

Talk Talk was a remarkable reverse sell-out. In three albums, they went from making new-wavey synth singles ("Talk Talk"), to deeper, more sonically-interesting singles ("It's My Life", "Life's What You Make It")...

Then the fourth and fifth albums "Spirit of Eden" and "Laughing Stock" are utterly serious art. Unsellable. The opener is to "Spirit of Eden" is nine slow, deliberate minutes long, and the first two minutes are not song at all. It's almost just noise. Impenetrable. If the first records with singles sold a million, the last two probably sold 50,000 each.

And then, over time, that reverse sell-out paid off. People found the uncommercial records, and realized how goddamn good they were if you put the time in. They are now regarded as superb art. Very influential. Some people feel those records mark the founding the genre of "post-rock".

Spotify reports that the first single "Talk Talk" currently has about 4 million plays. "The Rainbow", that nine-minute opener to "Spirit of Eden", also has about 4 million plays.

I think that is a fine outcome. RIP Mr Hollis.

BigV 03-16-2019 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1028362)
Forgot to recognize Mark Hollis, of Talk Talk, who died 2 weeks ago.

Back in the day, we hated musicians who would sell out - take their artistic success and flatten it for a commercial success.

Talk Talk was a remarkable reverse sell-out. In three albums, they went from making new-wavey synth singles ("Talk Talk"), to deeper, more sonically-interesting singles ("It's My Life", "Life's What You Make It")...

Then the fourth and fifth albums "Spirit of Eden" and "Laughing Stock" are utterly serious art. Unsellable. The opener is to "Spirit of Eden" is nine slow, deliberate minutes long, and the first two minutes are not song at all. It's almost just noise. Impenetrable. If the first records with singles sold a million, the last two probably sold 50,000 each.

And then, over time, that reverse sell-out paid off. People found the uncommercial records, and realized how goddamn good they were if you put the time in. They are now regarded as superb art. Very influential. Some people feel those records mark the founding the genre of "post-rock".

Spotify reports that the first single "Talk Talk" currently has about 4 million plays. "The Rainbow, that nine-minute opener to "Spirit of Eden", has about 4 million plays.

I think that is a fine outcome. RIP Mr Hollis.


https://pour15minutesdamour.blogspot...p-supreme.html

Gravdigr 03-16-2019 01:08 PM

I think someone hacked that website.

It's just gibberish.

:o

BigV 03-16-2019 01:25 PM

Chrome offers to translate the page from French to English on my system.


Quote:

Tomorrow Started (Supreme Pop)


A prince of Pop * is gone. In the summer of 1986 in Montreux, Talk Talk, of which Mark Hollis was the undisputed frontman gave a concert off stars . The announcement of his death made me all shabby.
I wanted to hear the stirring I Believe In You again on the album Spirit Of Eden . Mark had never sung so well.
Despite my promise, I pay tribute to a musician whose albums were bedside records when we thought we were masters - maybe not the world, though ...;) - but in any case radio. Without this, how can one claim to have been young?

* Cataloged a little fast "new pop" in the early 80s, Talk Talk has eliminated the gimmicks of a production dated for album after album, to achieve essential music that flirted with jazz and contemporary classical music.

Photo: Rob Ellis
Listed 3 months ago by R. Claude
Labels: 80's those who leave us britain pop

Gravdigr 03-16-2019 01:57 PM

I was just trying to be silly.

Gravdigr 03-18-2019 05:53 AM

Guitar God, "father of heavy metal", Dick Dale died on Mar 16, of heart failure.



Dick Dale was 81.



And yes. In the vid above, he's playing a left-handed Strat strung upside down.

xoxoxoBruce 03-18-2019 08:16 AM

My god, he was so good, so original, when that would come on in the car my father would turn it up, when my mother was there she would turn it off.

fargon 03-18-2019 08:19 AM

"You Know They Have A Hell Of A BAND!!!" The lead guitar has just shown up.

BigV 03-18-2019 10:10 AM

Dick Dale, King of the Surf Guitar.

His music, invented by and played by him, was in HEAVY ROTATION, during my life at college, and ever since. I had headphones as a kid, but it wasn't until college that I had the freedom to listen to what I wanted, as loud and out loud as I wanted.

And I wanted Dick Dale. And Jon and the Nightriders and The Ventures and The Surfaris and The Bel-Airs and and and... To this day, my favorite surf track is Mr. Moto. Unless it's Miserlou.

You're right, that is one helluva band.

lumberjim 03-18-2019 10:42 AM

Pete was pretty bummed. His ring tone is Dick Dale. I was over at his shop when the news dropped. We immediately changed the record (yes, vinyl) to Dick and we cranked it up. His phone pinged the rest of the night with people texting him the bad news.

Pete had met Dick a couple years ago, and the record we played, he had bought from his hand 2 years ago.

Sad. He was a really cool old dude from all accounts. At the show that night, someone threw their gum up on stage, and Dick picked it up and popped it in his mouth and chewed it for the rest of the set.

slang 03-18-2019 01:44 PM

http://www.progarchives.com/progress...2185122009.jpg

Griff 03-20-2019 08:37 AM

That is a bummer.

xoxoxoBruce 03-20-2019 11:44 PM

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Dale...

Undertoad 03-26-2019 08:23 PM

You may remember the [English] Beat for "Mirror In the Bathroom" and "Save It For Later". You may remember General Public for "Tenderness" and their cover of "I'll Take You There". Co-founder/singer Ranking Roger, has died of cancer, age 56.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...y-aged-56.html

Gravdigr 04-10-2019 10:29 AM

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Remember the movie Quiz Show?

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Charles Van Doren died April 9. He was 93.

BigV 04-12-2019 09:01 PM



I love this part:

Quote:

As the clock ticks away a lifetime,
hold your head up to the gun of a million cathode ray tubes
aimed at your tiny skull.
May you find sweet inspiration, may your memory not be dull.
May you rise to dizzy success.
May your wit be quick and strong.
May you constantly amaze us.
May your answers not be wrong.
May your head be on your shoulders.
May your tongue be in your cheek.
And most of all we pray that you may come back next week!
Be a quiz kid.
Be a whiz kid.

Gravdigr 04-14-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1027339)
Lead singer of The Prodigy was found dead today. Keith Flint was 49. Looks like a suicide.

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The band's long-time body guard, Con, just died.

Gravdigr 04-16-2019 08:05 AM

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Aw, man, Georgette died.

She passed on April 12.

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Georgia Engel
played Georgette Baxter on the Mary Tyler Moore Show for 5 years.

Cause of death is unknown, she was a Christian Science practitioner, and as such did not consult doctors. She was 70.

Gravdigr 04-30-2019 08:07 AM

Director/producer John Singleton

sexobon 05-03-2019 06:33 PM

Chewbacca

Gravdigr 05-10-2019 08:44 AM

Remember Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom? Remember Marlin Perkins?

Well, do you remember the guy who did all the dirty work?

Jim Fowler died on May 8th. His fish was complications from heart disease.

Quote:

I'm going to describe it from this nice warm studio, while my friend Jim attempts to circumcise a live water buffalo.
~Some comedian

Gravdigr 05-17-2019 09:27 AM

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Aw, shit, man.:sniff:

Grumpy Cat,

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(real name Tardar Sauce) has died (May 14). She was 7 years old. The mixed breed cat died of complications of a urinary tract infection.

Her 'grumpy' appearance was caused by an underbite, and feline dwarfism.

Gravdigr 05-17-2019 09:35 AM

Also, architect, and crossword puzzle clue/answer I.M. Pei died May 16, at 102. As for his fish...He was 102!

He and his wife were married for over 70 yrs when she died in 2014.

Undertoad 05-17-2019 12:19 PM

Grumpy Cat, aka Tardar Sauce, 7.

This is a true loss for the Internet. Grumpy Cat represented a better time, when we used social media to just enjoy pictures of a cat who looked grumpy.

fargon 05-17-2019 02:32 PM

I cried real tears when i read about Her this morning.

Undertoad 05-17-2019 06:40 PM

She even gets a NYTimes obituary, well done

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/b...-cat-dead.html

Gravdigr 05-18-2019 10:16 AM

Writer Herman Wouk, if ya can believe he was still alive to begin with.

The author of The Caine Mutiny, The Winds of War, and War and Remembrance died in his sleep, ten days shy of his 104th birthday.

Gravdigr 05-21-2019 07:38 AM

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Former F1 World Champion Niki Lauda

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died in his sleep yesterday (May 20), at the age of 70.

His and James hunt's F1 rivalry was the subject of the movie Rush.

Griff 05-26-2019 03:15 PM

Bart Starr

zippyt 05-30-2019 06:14 PM

Leon Redbone ,
one of my faves

Gravdigr 06-07-2019 11:01 AM

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Dr. John.

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The Night Tripper died of a heart attack "at the break of day" on June 6th. He was 77.

Gravdigr 06-07-2019 11:03 AM

I bet he and Leon Redbone are already jammin'.

Gravdigr 06-17-2019 09:44 AM

Gloria Vanderbilt, who I thought had been dead for years. She was 95. No fish.
________________________________________

Bishop Bullwinkle, of Hell To Da Naw Naw fame, died June 16, of complications of a heart attack. He was 70.

Clodfobble 06-17-2019 10:22 AM

I learned just recently that she was Anderson Cooper's mother...

BigV 06-19-2019 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 1034279)
I learned just recently that she was Anderson Cooper's mother...

Same here.

Griff 06-19-2019 06:37 AM

That is some weird stuff.

Gravdigr 06-25-2019 10:54 AM

Author Judith Krantz died on June 22.

At least a half-dozen of her novels were turned into TV mini-series, including Scruples, probably the most famous.

She was 91.

Gravdigr 06-27-2019 09:15 AM

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Actor Billy Drago died on June 24 (complications from a stroke). He's been in everything.

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His real name was William Eugene Burrows Jr., and he was 73.

Undertoad 07-10-2019 08:23 AM

The great Rip Torn, 88

Gravdigr 07-10-2019 10:55 AM

Rip Torn's Hairy, Shirtless Brawl With Norman Mailer Remains A Legendary Moment of Movie History

Read that first, then watch.



Rip Torn's Wiki page is worth a read.

Glinda 07-16-2019 12:46 PM

Charles Levin, Seinfeld's nervous mohel, and The Golden Girls' "fancy man."


monster 07-24-2019 03:17 PM

Rutger Hauer

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49098435

Undertoad 07-24-2019 04:46 PM

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Time to die.

Flint 07-24-2019 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1036034)
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Time to die.

o o f

henry quirk 07-25-2019 09:36 AM

'A long time ago I was one of you. You're all brand new and perfect. No mistakes, no regrets. People look at you and think of how wonderful your future will be. They want you to be something special... like a... a doctor or a lawyer. I hate to tell you this, but if you grow up here, you're more likely to wind up selling your bodies on the streets, or shooting dope from dirty needles in a bus stop. And if you're successful, you'll make money selling junk to crackheads. And you won't think twice about killing someone's wife, because you won't even know what was wrong in the first place. Or, maybe... you'll end up like me - a hobo with a shotgun! I hope you can do better. You are the future.'

xoxoxoBruce 07-25-2019 10:42 AM

In a good mood are we Henry? :D

henry quirk 07-25-2019 01:37 PM

Yep, right over yer head.
 
:drool:

BigV 07-29-2019 10:22 AM

Hobo With A Shotgun

Not lost on all of us...

henry quirk 07-30-2019 09:59 AM

"Hobo With A Shotgun Not lost on all of us..."

No, just Bruce.

xoxoxoBruce 07-31-2019 01:18 AM

I asked if you were in a good mood, in other words sarcastically asking if you're having a bad day, which would be a logical reason to post that quote. It was marked as a quote, but I didn't know where it came from because I don't watch that crap. I thought it more important as to why you posted it.

Urbane Guerrilla 08-17-2019 01:58 AM

Henry Fonda is no longer in any mood.

BigV 08-17-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 1037124)
Henry Fonda is no longer in any mood.

In other news, Peter Fonda has died.

captainhook455 08-17-2019 03:22 PM

Peter Fonda has taken that last ride.

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Gravdigr 08-17-2019 06:11 PM

Hey, did you guys know that Peter Fonda died?

monster 08-19-2019 12:42 AM

Were you fonda him? I guess he just petered out

captainhook455 08-19-2019 11:07 AM

He was a lousy actor and looked better with large sunglasses.

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Griff 08-20-2019 05:06 PM

What's the word on Peter Fonda?

Carruthers 08-20-2019 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1037241)
What's the word on Peter Fonda?

He's brought down the curtain and joined the choir invisible...

He is an ex-actor, he is bereft of life...

Undertoad 08-20-2019 05:33 PM

The only reason he had been standing on stage in the first place was because he had been nailed there!

lumberjim 08-21-2019 01:04 AM

He's just having a bit of a kip. Must be pining for the fjords, is all.


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