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Gravdigr 12-04-2018 03:55 AM

Yeah. The fucking train.

glatt 12-04-2018 07:56 PM

That's the cleanest train I have ever seen. Shiny.

xoxoxoBruce 12-19-2018 11:23 PM

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I'm glad they put up that railing to keep train from falling in the river... :haha:

Clodfobble 12-20-2018 11:30 AM

But there are people, too, walking between the train and the handrail. Seems like it's more for them?

xoxoxoBruce 12-20-2018 11:39 AM

They are there to cushion the train so it doesn't get scratched by the handrail. :haha:

Clodfobble 12-20-2018 11:48 AM

:lol:

xoxoxoBruce 01-09-2019 05:24 PM

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three to go...

Carruthers 01-26-2019 05:10 AM

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Model train that took 10 YEARS to build and is an exact replica of the Duchess of Buccleuch is set to sell for record-breaking £200,000 at auction

A one-eighth scale model of the Duchess of Buccleuch train is tipped to reach a record £200,000 at auction.
The 10ft model is fitted with hardwood floors, sliding fire doors, pressure gauges and even a copper boiler.
It was made in the 1970s by train builder Harry Powell who used original drawings to create a working replica.
The model is based on the real Duchess of Buccleuch train, which operated on the West Coast Main Line between London and Glasgow for a quarter of a century.
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Mr Powell used original drawings to create an exact working replica of the Duchess of Buccleuch, which operated on the West Coast Main Line between London and Glasgow for a quarter of a century

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It is a throwback to the era when steam trains set world records. But this model locomotive is tipped to break a record of its own when it goes up for auction.

The one-eighth scale version of the Duchess of Buccleuch, described as one of the finest ever built, is expected to fetch £200,000.

It is one of two models of the loco made by renowned train builder Harry Powell.
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The attention to detail is such that it is fitted with a copper boiler, safety valves, regulator, blower, whistle, brake, wheel reverse gear, sliding firedoors, pressure gauges, twin water sight gauges and a hardwood floor.

Painted in the original crimson London, Midland and Scottish Railway’s livery, it belonged to prominent model maker Ted Martin, who died aged 88 in 2010.

It is being sold by his estate at auction house Dreweatts, in Newbury, Berkshire, on March 12 with a pre-sale estimate of £150,000.

Michael Matthews, of Dreweatts, said the model is ‘as close as you can get to the real thing’ and could easily fetch £200,000.

He added: ‘Harry Powell is considered to be the Rembrandt of the model train making world. I would say it is one of the best railway models ever built.’
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It's an astonishing level of detail and workmanship.
How does anyone have that degree of patience and dedication?

More at the link.

Griff 01-26-2019 07:35 AM

Isn't that worth more than 200,000?

xoxoxoBruce 01-26-2019 10:07 AM

$263,900.

Carruthers 01-26-2019 10:29 AM

If you want the real thing...

'Sister ship' Duchess of Sutherland operates mainline steam specials.
I think that it is the only one of its class remaining but am willing to stand corrected.



It is not long since it emerged from a major overhaul.
In all honesty this video will not set the pulse racing but at least you can get a good view of the Duchess.


xoxoxoBruce 01-26-2019 11:19 AM

I've always been puzzled why they built locomotives so difficult for the engineer to see ahead, except for a couple of front cab specials. It wasn't until the modern diesel-electrics that they put the engineer up front. Maybe they wanted the engineer to keep the fireman company.:rolleyes:

Gravdigr 01-27-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Carruthers (Post 1024174)
How does anyone have that degree of patience and dedication?

No life to get in the way.

xoxoxoBruce 02-14-2019 09:28 AM

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Kentucky Choo Choo...

Gravdigr 02-14-2019 12:12 PM

Rails for your train?

Pfft. Luxury![/Python]

xoxoxoBruce 02-16-2019 02:36 AM

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Nothing stops the Chief...

xoxoxoBruce 02-17-2019 06:23 AM

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While the big one WW II was raging, Spain had already finished their war with Hitler's help and had moved on to other things.

Gravdigr 02-17-2019 06:48 AM

As I post this it is 6:48.

How did you post that post thirty minutes from now?

ETA: Dammit your post time was 30 minutes ahead just a second ago! It said 7:23. WTF?

Griff 02-17-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1025893)
While the big one WW II was raging, Spain had already finished their war with Hitler's help and had moved on to other things.

Maybe Drumpf's right about re-visiting fascism.

Undertoad 02-17-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1025894)
As I post this it is 6:48.

http://cellar.org/img/648.jpg

You lost a whole hour eatin' breakfast!

Undertoad 02-17-2019 09:22 AM

ETA: Spring Forward is March 10

Gravdigr 02-17-2019 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1025918)
You lost a whole hour eatin' breakfast!

See, that shit makes my head hurt.

Carruthers 02-18-2019 04:50 AM

In 1953 most people wore hats, spoke proper and didn't eat peas with a knife.

They also looked worn out and old before their time which isn't surprising as the country was still struggling in the wake of WWII.

From that year is 'London to Brighton in Four Minutes'....


Undertoad 02-18-2019 09:21 AM

Very nice!

To my eyes, one modernish thing jumped off the screen as I watched this.

http://cellar.org/img/gillsans1.jpg

It's the FONT used here. The font is Gill Sans, the predecessor to Helvetica.

It will not appear "modern" at all to Brits, because British Rail adopted it really early in history. It was used in the 30s for things that wanted to look modern, and became the standard British Railways font in 1948. But its predecessor was developed by a man named Johnson for the London Underground in the 1910s.

Since it's for railway signage, it's also seen in the film here:

http://cellar.org/img/gillsans2.jpg

And this conductor has a box of it on his right:

http://cellar.org/img/gillsans3.jpg

When the world found Helvetica (1957), and wanted to become modern, that became THE font for transport signage, and in some places, it still is:

http://cellar.org/img/helvetica1.jpg

Most signage uses different variants on Helvetica now; the font has been endlessly refined for different things. We computer users are most familiar with its little cousin Arial. There is a good chance you are reading this sentence in Arial.

Gravdigr 02-18-2019 10:14 AM

Today I Learned about railway fonts.

Griff 02-18-2019 10:59 AM

me too as well along with the potential for dating stuff by font which seems obvious in retrospect but apparently wasn't

i think i broke my engrish

Undertoad 02-18-2019 11:50 AM

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the potential for dating stuff by font which seems obvious in retrospect but apparently wasn't
Remember when Dan Rather was fired from CBS News, for rolling with the story that W. Bush was AWOL from his National Guard duty? It was proven out as a hoax because computer typography geeks could see, immediately, that the supposedly-typewritten memo was a fake. Set in a modern proportional font, with modern kerning, in a style not available in 1973. (But which was the default fonts setting in MS Word at the time.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killia...ts_controversy

Our 2004 thread on the matter

Griff 02-18-2019 11:52 AM

Yeah. That's right!

Carruthers 02-18-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1025993)
Today I Learned about railway fonts.

So did I! I also learned that Gill Sans was designed by the sculptor Eric Gill.

A quick search of eBay indicates that there is a market for original British Railways signage.

This one is priced at £1600 or about $2068. :eek:

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eBay

xoxoxoBruce 02-20-2019 03:09 AM

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Pennsylvania Rail Road big mofo...

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Cadbury locomotives come in two flavors...

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Gravdigr 02-20-2019 09:26 AM

What, no cream-filled?

Diaphone Jim 02-20-2019 12:22 PM

I see what you mean with PRR 6200. Maybe the engineer could look out the other side.

xoxoxoBruce 02-21-2019 01:57 AM

I can't imagine what a million pound locomotive does to the tracks/ties/bed.

BigV 02-23-2019 11:44 AM

the "no cylinders, direct drive" caught my attention.

You mean the turbines powered by the (320 psi !!!!) steam were directly coupled to the drive wheels? How in the world does that thing just start moving??!! How much bypass is happening in the drivetrain? You're trying to get the million pounds off the schneid by blowing on it? I'm thinking through this now, obviously there's a gearbox of some kind involved, and low-low-low-low must have been pretty low to start that monster.

xoxoxoBruce 02-23-2019 11:59 AM

18.5:1

Gravdigr 02-23-2019 12:12 PM

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Such design was to prevent energy loss and S2 achieved a mechanical efficiency of 97% which means only 3% of steam energy was lost within the propulsion equipment.
Wow.

BigV 02-23-2019 01:28 PM

wow.

xoxoxoBruce 02-26-2019 02:22 AM

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Maybe for the owners...

xoxoxoBruce 02-27-2019 11:31 PM

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Pacific Coast Railroad

BigV 02-28-2019 11:22 AM

Some of those placenames are still around. Not as much of the railroad though.

xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2019 12:52 AM

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The date for the Pacific map is 1958 but I figured it was more historical than current.

The Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad used anthracite coal because it's local but played it up in their PR and ads.

xoxoxoBruce 03-06-2019 12:59 AM

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Ever wonder how big the contact patch is? Small, very small.

Carruthers 03-06-2019 05:05 AM

It only took forty years.
 
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It was one of the unsung heroes of the early 20th Century railway system in the UK.

'Hall Class' locomotives were never going to be confused with the likes of the Flying Scotsman, Mallard or Duchess of Hamilton, but they gave many years of sterling service.

Each was named after a stately home, in this instance Wightwick Hall, and when the production run came to an end and they were running out of names, some wag suggested that the last one should be named 'That's Hall'.

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Restored Wightwick Hall locomotive to run in Bucks

A steam locomotive is due to run for the first time in more than half a century after a restoration which has taken over 40 years.

The 6989 Wightwick Hall was built in 1948 and last ran in 1964.

It arrived at the Buckinghamshire Railway Centre in Quainton in 1978 and has been rebuilt by volunteers from the 6989 Restoration Group.

Project member Chris Taylor said its run on Sunday would be "pretty emotional".

Built in Swindon and named after Wightwick Hall, near Wolverhampton, it covered 640,645 miles over 16 years in a fast express and freight role, including taking supporters to Wembley on football specials.

After decommissioning, it was sold to a scrapyard in Barry in Glamorgan, where it sat for more than 13 years before the engine and a tender were bought for £13,000 by the Quainton Railway Society after a fundraising appeal.
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Wightwick Hall arrives at Buckinghamshire Railway Centre (Quainton) in 1978.

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Chris Taylor is one of two men who have worked on it for 44 years - he first started travelling to Wales at weekends in 1974.

He said that over the years about 40 people have been involved and the current core team of eight have been together about 20 years.

"It had to be stripped right down to the basic components and then slowly rebuilt," he said.

"It's been totally done by a group of volunteers who've raised every penny themselves and done it on weekends as a hobby."

The locomotive passed its steam test in December and on Sunday it will travel about half a mile along the track at the museum.

"I will be at the helm for part of it - it will be pretty emotional," Mr Taylor said.

He said she would "earn her keep" by going on hire to other heritage railway companies where she would do runs of about 10-12 miles.

The locomotive passed its steam test in December and on Sunday it will travel about half a mile along the track at the museum.

"I will be at the helm for part of it - it will be pretty emotional," Mr Taylor said.

He said she would "earn her keep" by going on hire to other heritage railway companies where she would do runs of about 10-12 miles.
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Restored to her former glory.


BBC

Wiki


Buckinghamshire Railway Centre

slang 03-06-2019 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Carruthers (Post 1027532)
It was one of the unsung heroes of the early 20th Century railway system in the UK.

Very cool.




Diaphone Jim 03-06-2019 11:56 AM

That's "brilliant," as is heard a few times in the vids.

Gravdigr 03-06-2019 03:00 PM

She cleans up well!

glatt 03-07-2019 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1027526)
Ever wonder how big the contact patch is? Small, very small.

Impressive.

Makes me think of how long it takes one to stop.

Diaphone Jim 03-07-2019 11:12 AM

That small area of steel-on-steel contact is what reduces friction to the point that allows millions of tons to roll along efficiently.

Gravdigr 03-07-2019 11:51 AM

I was thinking it had something to do with rolling resistance.

Plus I've wondered the rails ain't flat.

Now I know. And knowing is half the battle.[/G.I.Joe]

Gravdigr 03-07-2019 11:55 AM

The other day I saw something I'd never seen before. Train was going by when I got to the crossing. I sat there a minute watching the cars go by. A couple of minutes go by, prolly a quarter-half mile of train...and there, in the middle of this train, was an engine. Just one, all by his lonesome. And then another half mile o' train. Never seen that. I'm wondering if he was on the job, helping move the train, or if they just needed to get a locomotive somewhere.

ETA:

I just realized...I don't think I heard that engine. Does locomotives got neutral?

xoxoxoBruce 03-07-2019 12:50 PM

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May 10th is the reenactment and celebration of the 150th anniversary of driving the Golden Spike in Utah.
I know 29 of the people going.

Union Pacific 4014 Big Boy has been restored and will be there.

132 feet long.

Happy Monkey 03-07-2019 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1027683)
A couple of minutes go by, prolly a quarter-half mile of train...and there, in the middle of this train, was an engine. Just one, all by his lonesome. And then another half mile o' train. Never seen that. I'm wondering if he was on the job, helping move the train, or if they just needed to get a locomotive somewhere.

They could have had two trains join up on a section of track their routes shared.

xoxoxoBruce 03-07-2019 01:07 PM

Sounds like he's saying no locomotive at either end, just one in the middle.

Gravdigr 03-08-2019 01:14 PM

I assume there was/were engine(s) at the front, I was late for that scene. Nothing at the rear.

Gravdigr 03-08-2019 01:18 PM

WTF kind of sedans is the UP looking at?!

16 feet long, 5 feet tall?

xoxoxoBruce 03-08-2019 10:35 PM

I don't know what sedan, nor when that was made. 747's have been around since 1970 and it wouldn't be an unreasonable approximation during that time.

Gravdigr 03-09-2019 10:23 AM

Well, the 70s, maybe...

Gravdigr 03-09-2019 11:46 AM

Today I Learned...
 
Ok, we haz train trains.

We haz road trains.

Today I learned that we haz air train.

xoxoxoBruce 03-10-2019 03:56 AM

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That Skytrain is ripe for Skyjacking a bunch of travelers after they've come through the duty free liquor shop. :yesnod:


Sometimes you don't need a flatcar, just the wheels...

xoxoxoBruce 03-14-2019 12:00 AM

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Choo Choo plows be large...


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