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xoxoxoBruce 05-03-2018 08:51 PM

Hey it's FOX. Assume it's a lie and expand from there.

Griff 05-04-2018 03:01 PM

It's an entertainment company, are you not entertained?

xoxoxoBruce 05-04-2018 05:28 PM

I'm not amuse at them naming the helicopter after me. ;)

Carruthers 05-13-2018 04:02 AM



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The pilot of a light aircraft which had to make an emergency landing on a beach in Devon this evening has spoken out about the incident.

Zac Rockey was flying the vintage plane along the Jurassic Coast when the engine failed.

The nearest area for him to make an emergency landing was Jacob’s Ladder beach at Sidmouth, which he did safely at about 5pm.

The experienced pilot had been asked to take the aircraft, by its owners, down to Bodmin Airfield for an event to mark the 100 anniversary of the end of the First World War; the era the plane is from.

It was on his return that he started to get into difficultly.

He said: “We flying along taking in the it began to lose power, it failed, the options available to me in the cockpit didn’t work. So I had to look somewhere to land.

“You look for somewhere near something or people so that if there are complications you will be able to get help more easily.

“You know what I have had better runways. It was not ideal.”

He added that all his training came into play as he dealt with the situation, which could have been a lot worse.

Zac was showing the aircraft off to a prospective buyer while at Bodmin but it had not been successful.

He also thanked the coastguard crews for their help and support following the incident.

The plane will now need to be dismantled in order to get it off the beach.
Devon Live

An engine out landing, in a tail dragger, on a stony beach alongside cliffs.
It's not exactly the best hand ever dealt. :eek:

Landing site from the air (Google).

xoxoxoBruce 05-13-2018 09:54 AM

Why can't they load it on a barge rather than dismantling?

Carruthers 05-13-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1008412)
Why can't they load it on a barge rather than dismantling?

The problem there is that having lifted it off a barge at a convenient small port, it would still have to be dismantled and transported by road to an airfield for repair.
Easier to dismantle it where it stands and load straight on to a road vehicle.

Pictures of the dismantling process.

xoxoxoBruce 05-13-2018 02:47 PM

I understand why they can't take off from the beach but if they got it to solid ground they could just pop in a new hamster and fly away.

Gravdigr 05-13-2018 02:52 PM

Take a rubber band, a really big rubber band, slip one end around the tail skid, slip the other end around that U-shaped hook sticking out the back of the propeller. Then, wind that sucker really tight...

Gravdigr 05-13-2018 03:41 PM

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I'm photo safari'ing the other day when I happen to look up and see this plane making a long sweeping turn, and decided to take a practice shot picture. Which isn't the best pic I've ever taken.

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Is it just me, or do the proportions of the plane look a little 'fat'? It looks to be a particularly fat-bodied plane, doesn't it? Is it just me?

I thought maybe it was one of the newer planes, like a Dreamliner, or Airbus A380. Nope.

Idk what I took a pic of.

Gravdigr 05-13-2018 03:41 PM

It's short and fat, like me.:D

Carruthers 05-13-2018 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1008425)
I'm photo safari'ing the other day when I happen to look up and see this plane making a long sweeping turn, and decided to take a practice shot picture. Which isn't the best pic I've ever taken.

Is it just me, or do the proportions of the plane look a little 'fat'? It looks to be a particularly fat-bodied plane, doesn't it? Is it just me?

I thought maybe it was one of the newer planes, like a Dreamliner, or Airbus A380. Nope.

Idk what I took a pic of.

See my post #557 on Page 38.
I think that will shed some light on the subject.

Forgive me for not posting a proper link, but I'm using my iPad and it's more of an art than a science when it comes to the finer points of interwebbery.

xoxoxoBruce 05-13-2018 07:03 PM

Not likely, Dreamlifters and such are rarer than hen's teeth. Not impossible, just not likely.

Gravdigr 05-14-2018 02:48 PM

I think I saw a Dreamlifter!!!

Wiki says there are four of them. And I think the plane in my post is one of them. Blue engine nacelles, check. Natural-finish wings, check. The 'step' in the fuselage above and behind the cockpit, check. Stubby tail, check.

I think I saw a Dreamlifter!!!

Gravdigr 05-14-2018 02:52 PM

Carruthers, thank you very much for the info, sir.



This puts a Dreamlifter, and an AEWACS plane in the ol' plane spottin' game bag.:cool:



Look uuuuuuup!!

Carruthers 05-14-2018 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1008455)
Carruthers, thank you very much for the info, sir.

My pleasure!

Using the registration of the aircraft in my earlier post, N718BA, I went to Flightradar24 and did a search which produced details of recent flights by that aircraft:

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Registrations of the other three aircraft should be easy to find so you could carry out searches and then correlate aircraft flights and dates.
If you go down that road, perhaps you'd let us know which route 'your' aircraft was on. :thumb:

PS Sorry about the Honda ad!

Diaphone Jim 05-14-2018 06:42 PM

An interesting whoops with pics and vids:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-airport.html

Does anyone else remember the Guppy?
http://www.tested.com/science/space/...irreplaceable/

xoxoxoBruce 05-14-2018 08:13 PM

I do.

Gravdigr 05-17-2018 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Carruthers (Post 1008457)
Registrations of the other three aircraft should be easy to find so you could carry out searches and then correlate aircraft flights and dates.
If you go down that road, perhaps you'd let us know which route 'your' aircraft was on. :thumb:

My pic is a bit old for tracking, I think. It was actually taken on 4/20/18.

I don't want to join up w/a gold membership to track it.

But, I didn't know I could track an older flight, though. So thanks for teaching me that.:)

Gravdigr 05-19-2018 02:16 PM


Carruthers 05-19-2018 04:24 PM

I've often wondered how a sudden discharge of water or other material might affect the aircraft's C of G.
Presumably a swift re-trimming is required or perhaps the necessary measures are built in.
Anyway, an impressive bit of flying!

xoxoxoBruce 05-19-2018 07:53 PM

They try to dump from the center of the aircraft, and fortunately loss of weight tends to make the aircraft rise. Paying attention is a plus.

Gravdigr 05-20-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1008734)
Paying attention is a plus.

:yesnod:

xoxoxoBruce 05-26-2018 05:45 PM

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Ah, true truth finally revealed...

xoxoxoBruce 05-31-2018 08:40 PM

Why some jet engines are mounted under the wings and some are mounted near the tail...


xoxoxoBruce 06-01-2018 10:06 PM

♫ Coming in from London from over the pole
♪ Flying in a big airliner
♫ Chicken flying everywhere around the plane
♪ Could we ever feel much finer

But only on the right airline and having paid Putin.


Carruthers 06-02-2018 04:01 AM

A mention of Korean Airlines flights 902 and 007, both shot down by the Soviet Union, would have added a bit more Cold War context to the video.

Korean Air Lines Flight 902

Korean Air Lines Flight 007

I was taken aback by the fact that Russia profits by about $100 per passenger.
My connections with aviation have long since vanished in the mists of time so things might well have changed, but my understanding is that route charges are levied by states providing navigational infrastructure and air traffic control services to overflying aircraft.
By definition they can't levy landing fees so en-route charges are made instead.
I didn't think that they could be used as a passenger tax which now appears to be the case.

Gravdigr 06-05-2018 05:36 PM

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Gravdigr 06-12-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1004713)
I'd just taken two pictures of an AWACS plane!

First pic in the OP, edited:

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Carruthers 06-12-2018 03:57 PM

You might like to have a look here:

https://www.adsbexchange.com/

Click on the 'Global Radar View' tab for a comprehensive real time representation of air traffic around you.
Unlike other sites, it doesn't filter out military traffic. From the above screen, go to options and enable the filter for military traffic.
It should shed some light on the wanderings of your AWACS next time you see it.

Gravdigr 06-12-2018 04:07 PM

Much obliged.[/tipofhat]

Gravdigr 06-14-2018 02:04 PM

An Airbus A380 took a 'nosedive' over the Pacific after flying through turbulence caused by another A380

The 'another A380' was flying 1,000 feet higher, and twenty-three miles ahead of the first one.:3_eyes:

BigV 06-14-2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1010144)
An Airbus A380 took a 'nosedive' over the Pacific after flying through turbulence caused by another A380

The 'another A380' was flying 1,000 feet higher, and twenty-three miles ahead of the first one.:3_eyes:

Just means the turbulent vortexes had to persist for two to three minutes.. not *that* long to dissipate.

Carruthers 06-15-2018 04:16 AM

A Bombardier Challenger 604 had an encounter with A380 wake turbulence over the Arabian Sea which nearly ended in disaster.

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The pilots told accident investigators how they lost control of the aircraft in a wake turbulence encounter that caused the CL604 to drop 9,000 ft and roll through “several rotations.”

The pilots of a Bombardier Challenger 604 have told accident investigators how they lost control of the aircraft in a January encounter with wake turbulence from an Airbus 380 that caused the CL604 to drop 9,000 ft and roll through “several rotations,” according to an interim report from the German Federal Bureau of Aircraft Accident Investigation.

The report said the temporary loss of control occurred about one minute after the A380 passed overhead, headed in the opposite direction, about 1,000 ft above the CL604, in Indian airspace over the Arabian Sea.

As the CL604 rolled left, its autopilot and a number of instruments and cockpit displays failed, including the inertial reference systems, the flight management system and the attitude indication, the report said.

The pilot-in-command told accident investigators that, “since the sky had been blue and the ocean’s surface almost the same colour, he had been able to recognize the aircraft’s flight attitude with the help of the clouds,” the report said.

The airplane experienced “large control surface deflections and acceleration,” and its left engine had to be shut off because of increases in the inter-stage turbine temperature, the report said.
A Bombardier Challenger 604 business jet had an encounter with A380 wake turbulence over the Arabian Sea which nearly ended in disaster.
The crew told air traffic control in Mumbai about the occurrence and declared an emergency, then restarted the left engine and diverted the flight to Muscat International Airport in Oman.

The CL604 was headed from Malé, Maldive Islands, to Al-Bateen, United Arab Emirates, with three crewmembers and six passengers; two passengers were seriously injured, and two other passengers and a flight attendant received minor injuries. The report characterized the airplane as substantially damaged, and added that Bombardier had said that the airframe “could not be restored to an airworthy state.”

The A380 was en route from Dubai to Sydney, Australia.

Investigation of the event is continuing.
LINK

Gravdigr 06-15-2018 01:29 PM

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“...could not be restored to an airworthy state.”
Wow. Wonder who get$ to pay for that?

Carruthers 06-15-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1010211)
Wow. Wonder who get$ to pay for that?

I was talking to Dad about that incident earlier and he asked exactly the same question.

I didn't have an answer other than to say that the lawyers were circling.

It would take more than wake turbulence from an A380 to knock that lot out of the sky.

Gravdigr 06-15-2018 01:44 PM

Hah!:D

Carruthers 06-28-2018 05:06 AM

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Another day in the Mach Loop

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Aircraft enthusiasts enjoyed a treat yesterday as the US air force carried out low-flying training using F-15 jets in the Mach Loop valleys in Wales.
The valleys, between Dolgellau and Machynlleth are regularly used for military training. The F-15 is the primary fighter jet of the US Air Force.

xoxoxoBruce 06-28-2018 08:45 AM

Look at all those practice targets for ground support practice. :evil2:

Carruthers 06-28-2018 09:05 AM

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The 'practice targets' are occasionally rewarded with humour:

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xoxoxoBruce 06-29-2018 10:17 PM

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After a successful bomb run, they had a BBQ lunch on the way home...

Gravdigr 06-30-2018 02:29 PM

"What did they BBQ?"

"Waist gunner."

Gravdigr 06-30-2018 03:01 PM

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...every time I give him a bath...:facepalm:

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Carruthers 06-30-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1010939)
...every time I give him a bath...:facepalm:

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That's a Jaguar ground attack aircraft. I thought it was an RAF example at first, but closer inspection reveals French Air Force roundels.
So that's OK. ;)

Gravdigr 07-03-2018 10:31 AM

:D

Gravdigr 07-03-2018 10:32 AM

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xoxoxoBruce 07-04-2018 08:48 PM

Pravda says...

http://cellar.org/2017/f-35.jpg

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The Pentagon has published a report, in which it was acknowledged that 50% of fifth-generation F-35 fighters were not suitable for combat action. Specialists have not been able to resolve a lot of technical deficiencies, which the renowned aircraft had been repeatedly criticised for. The efforts made have failed to improve the reliability of the fighters since 2014, despite the growth of their number. Improved versions of software for the fighter have had 31 updates, but key shortcomings have not yet been corrected. Thus, as many as 1,000 flaws make the F-35 fighter aircraft just common aircraft. For example, F-35B modifications for the Marine Corps and F-35C for aircraft carriers cannot be refuelled in the air.

Gravdigr 07-05-2018 03:23 PM

And they wouldn't tell ya wrong, now would they?;)

xoxoxoBruce 07-05-2018 06:31 PM

You're Putin me on. :rolleyes:
But they have plenty of ammo to work with, the F-35 is a very fucked up program. Should be building Warthogs.

Gravdigr 07-06-2018 01:44 PM

Fuckin' A.

Slow and low, that is the tempo!

BigV 07-06-2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1011192)
snip--
Should be building Warthogs.

QFFT!

Carruthers 07-11-2018 09:05 AM

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A drone or UAV is presently en-route from Grand Forks ND to RAF Fairford, England where it will be on static display at the Royal International Air Tattoo.

I've just done a couple of very quick screen grabs...

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Click here for live tracking: FR24

I've just been looking at the Notam for this flight and find that it is neither a drone nor a UAV. It's a Remotely Piloted Aircraft System.
I'm pleased to have been able to clear up that little misunderstanding. ;)

Undertoad 07-11-2018 10:02 AM

But FlightTracker says type = "DRON"! :D

Good one, I see it circled for traffic before turning ESE and making landfall

Carruthers 07-11-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1011477)
But FlightTracker says type = "DRON"! :D

So it does! Well spotted, sir! :thumb:

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Good one, I see it circled for traffic before turning ESE and making landfall
There's a large restricted area out in Cardigan Bay where the circling took place.
It's used by Llanbedr airfield where drone development work is carried out.

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A small airfield in Snowdonia is at the forefront of testing and developing unmanned drone aircraft (UAVs) for civilian use.

Tackling environmental issues such as coastal flooding and erosion and fisheries protection duties are just some of the tasks being undertaken as part of Project Meredith at Llanbedr airfield near Harlech.

The initiative, led by defence technology firm Qinetiq, is the first major UAV test and evaluation project at the Snowdonia Aerospace Centre, formerly RAF Llanbedr.

Jeremy Howitt of Qinetiq said the airfield at Llanbedr is ideal for the project and he wants it to become the UK’s main test centre for drones, which has attracted protests in the past.
Link

ETA It's just been brought to my attention that the drone is accompanied by a helicopter which is doing air to air photography.
Unless you zoom in, the chopper symbol can't be seen under N190TC.
I understand that is what was going on over Cardigan Bay.

Undertoad 07-11-2018 11:12 AM

Now just circling, they must be showing off. :D

Carruthers 07-11-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1011481)
Now just circling, they must be showing off. :D

And in remarkably close proximity to the GCHQ site at Cheltenham.

I feel a conspiracy theory coming on. :eek:

BigV 07-11-2018 11:52 AM

What is the difference between a unmanned aircraft and a remotely piloted aircraft?

Carruthers 07-11-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 1011485)
What is the difference between a unmanned aircraft and a remotely piloted aircraft?

I'd be inclined to say none.

There's probably an element of managing public perception going on.
A remotely piloted aircraft sounds better than an unmanned aircraft which in turn sounds better, and less threatening, than drone.

Undertoad 07-11-2018 12:20 PM

Or indeed DRON!

Da doo ron ron ron

Da doo ron ron

Carruthers 07-11-2018 12:26 PM

From KVRR. Includes video.

Historic Flight for Unmanned Medium Altitude Aircraft Takes Off in Grand Forks

xoxoxoBruce 07-11-2018 01:11 PM

Trump had a large thermonuclear device hidden in the plane in case he's not satisfied with Theresa's blowjob. :bj:


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