John Heard, known in my house from Cat People, CSI: Miami, and assorted bit parts. Cause as yet unknown last I read.

CSI: Miami!! That's the one I couldn't think of! He played my sweetheart's daddy on CSI :Miami!!

Also, Frank Sinatra's widow passed away last week of natural causes, age 90.

Just about everyone I know IRL thinks Trump doesn't have long. He appears to be bloating in a way consistent with congestive heart failure, and his lack of popularity is making him so frustrated and angry they're practically running a betting pool on whether he's gonna have a heart attack or a stroke. First.

I don't want him to die, but I would like to have him retire.

I would wish death on very few people, even the current President...but he looks very, very unhealthy and has a reputation for not taking care of himself physically. Add one of the highest-stress jobs in the world, and medically he's a ticking bomb.

Sam Shepard, 73, complications of ALS.

Well, shit.

I liked the dude.

Blackthorn

Notre Dame football coaching legend, last living member of The Holy Trinity of Notre Dame football coaches (the others being Frank Leahy & Knute Rockne), Ara Parseghian died 2 days ago.

Well, He's Almost A Person
 

Chantek, the orangutan at the Atlanta zoo died yesterday. He could communicate using American Sign Language, like Koko the gorilla. Chantek could give driving directions to his favorite fast food resaurant, Dairy Queen.

He was 39 years old.

Glen Campbell
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...ead-at-81.html

I wonder how many of The Wrecking Crew (of which Mr. Campbell was a member) are still alive?

One. Carol Kaye. Always the bass player, eh?

did you ever watch the movie as I urged you to do?

Oh, hells yeah.

And thank you for doing so.

I also watched the documentary on the Muscle Shoals scene. Also very good.

It's neat learning how those great old songs came together.

Speaking of Kaye and Campbell, she was the one who came up with the basic melody for one of Campbell's biggest hits, and I CANNOT remember which one. Wichita Lineman, maybe.

Jerry Lewis, dead at 91.

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Also, Dick Gregory died Saturday night.

He was 84.

Jay Thomas, dead at 69.

The headline that I clicked read "Cheers Favorite Jay Thomas Dies At 69"...

Jay Thomas (at the time appearing on Cheers as Carla's boyfriend/husband/whatever) that he had the hardest job in Hollywood, he had to kiss Rhea Perlman. They killed him off the show after that. His character was run over by A Zamboni. Yeah, I would call that being a favorite.

YouTube 'Jay Thomas Lone Ranger Story', though, you won't be disappointed. Very funny. There is more than one instance of him telling this story on Letterman, it's kind of a tradition.

Apparently Bruce Forsyth died when we were away with no interwebs

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40978576

Aw!

Tobe Hooper, director of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, died this past Saturday. He also adapted Salem's Lot into the 1979 mini-series. Didn't know that.

Walter Becker of Steely Dan died Sunday, he was 67.

That really bummed me out.

Don Williams
http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...-williams-dead
Tulsa Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6MbPWzIFUk

Half of country duo Montgomery Gentry, Troy Gentry, died in a helicopter crash on his way to a show. He was 50.

When will people learn, the only people who should be in helicopters should not be paying for it, they should be paid or drafted. :crone:

Author Jerry Pournelle has died. On Sept. 8th.

The only book of his I read was Footfall, written with Larry Niven, as were several other novels.

I was in a freedom-challenged period of my life.

That novel was a great escape.

Loved that novel. Intertwining stories and easter eggs for sci-fi enthusiasts. Everyone should know who the scientist with a head like a bullet and a razor mustache was.

Sorry to hear about Pournelle's passing.

Harry Dean Stanton
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/harry-dean...lebrities.html

Harry Dean Stanton
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/harry-dean...lebrities.html

thumbs up

RIP, famous person
 

I liked him. He was always good in whatever he did. But that screen preview isn't him.

Frank Vincent,

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who played 'Phil Leotardo' on The Sopranos, dead at 80. Died during open heart surgery, after sufferng a heart attack earlier this month.

For me, Harry Dean Stanton will always be the Harry Dean Stanton in Cool Hand Luke.

Ol' Harry was a Kentuckian, y'know.

His cameo in the Marvel Universe, when he finds a naked, post-Hulk Bruce Banner. We were happy to see him pop up in unexpected places.

Basil Gogos...

At first I was all "WTF is a Basil Gogos?"

And then I was all "Hey, I know this guy's work!"

Here's his version of the "Creature From The Black Lagoon", the only monster that I ever dreamed about:

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Professional wrestling manager, former wrestler Bobby "The Brain" Heenan (real name Raymond Louis Heenan), dead at 72, throat cancer.

Also, the world's oldest living person isn't, anymore. Living, I mean. Violet Brown died at the ripe old age of 117 years, 189 days.

She was the second to last living person born in the 19th century.

Nabi Tajima is now the oldest living person on Earth, and the last living person born in the 19th century. 117 years, 45 days.

Kinky.
Sooooo, you are into watersports?

Yes I am.

OOH Baby I love water.

Well, I didn't dream about it that way.

Well, ok, there was that one time...:p:

I dream about it that way.

So does Trump. :eyebrow:

FWEEEP! :redcard: Thread foul, unnecessary cheap shot, five minute penalty.

Overruled, the Russians have pictures. :p:

I saw a clip of Seth MacFarlane on one of the talk shows talking about hosting the Trump Roast. One of his jokes (on the roast) was that when Donald Trump has sex, he thinks of himself jerking off. He said Trump nodded his head like "That's fair."

Hef. What a life that guy lived.

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...-at-91-w443922

I guess. Kind of pathetic, if you ask me. Surrounded by yes-men, and always knowing in the back of his mind that not one of the women ever really wanted to be with him as a person. No amount of money is worth that.

How do you know none of them was really in love with him, wanted him for him? Not even Barbi Benton, or his wife Kimberly Conrad?
Hmm, if you are correct and he ended up an old man loved by none, I'd say he had a hell of a better time getting there than I did. :yesnod:

Sure. 18-year-olds are known for falling deeply in love with all the unwealthy 42-year-old men in their lives. :rolleyes:

There are people (still) who get by just fine without true love. You can learn to love anyone/thing, and you can learn to get by without it.

Yep, Old Hef was surrounded by beautiful women, slept on piles of hundred dollar bills, partied his phucking ass off his entire life, and died, at the Playboy mansion, at the age of ninety-fucking-one. Yeah that fellow was pathetic alright.[/immeasurablesarcasm]

And he was on my list.:(

Wonder how long they've been saving this one?

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There you go with personal opinion and tropes. You have no way of proving who was, or was not, in love with whom. You'd even have to define what is, and is not, love. If a 13 year old girl says she's madly in love with her French teacher, everyone is quick to scoff at her because they are older, wiser, and know better. Granted it's best to discourage her because of the social and legal nightmare. But that does not mean she is not truly and deeply in love.

There will always be those who love famously, and those who love fame. I don't presume to know how many of Hef's lovers fit which category, and the reality is, it doesn't matter at all. Those were Hef's personal choices to make and they didn't effect me (or anyone else, other than Hef and his girlfriends) in the least.

I don't recall hearing about Hef being a shitty human being, or seeing news stories about former girlfriends writing ugly tell-alls about his behavior. I know he was fairly philanthropic and that he fought for and supported civil rights issues (same-sex marriage, for one).

His passions were beautiful women and sexual freedom, and he followed them to great success and wealth. I don't have any beefs against the guy.

:neutral:

Jennifer Saginor
Izabella St. James
Kendra Wilkinson
Holly Madison
Dorothy Stratten
Gloria Steinem

And those are just the ones who could write a coherent sentence. I'm not absolving the girls of their own responsibility for their situation. And there are certainly some who understood what they were getting into, took it for the career boost it was, and successfully moved on to bigger and better things. I'm not saying he was a brutal rapist or anything. But the glamour was a lie, and the emotional abuse was real, not to mention the pressure to get high and have sex with his friends or else risk being banished from his good graces.

He fought for LGBT rights when no one else was. He fought for women's rights way before a lot of other people (with the exception of the women living in his home.) He wasn't all bad. But like anyone with a public brand to maintain, the truth is always uglier than the Instagram photos.

His daughter is a highly able, strong, and philanthropic woman and I will partly judge him by that

I have heard Ms. Madison tell some of her tale, and it is appalling.

Jennifer Saginor - she was the daughter of Hef's private doctor, who brought her to live at the Mansion because she demanded to live with her father at the Mansion. Not Hef's doing (although he should have insisted his doctor remove her from the house).

Izabella St. James - Aw. The Mansion was "shabby," and she had to be in by 9 p.m. most nights. How awful for her!

Kendra Wilkinson - Her life with Hef doesn't sound so terribly ugly or damaging. In fact, she says some very kind things about him.

Holly Madison - Apparently life after Hef consists of writing whiny books about how innocent she was, how damaged she is, and how MEAN everybody has been to her. *pout*

Dorothy Stratten -Murdered by her husband; hardly Hef's fault.

Gloria Steinem - Paid by her magazine employer in 1963 to reveal what it took to be a Bunny. The astonishing answer: pretty, thin, and able to serve drinks in high heels. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

Meh.

Monty Hall, legendary host of ‘Let’s Make a Deal,' dead at 96

He's probably standing before Saint Peter who's asking him - Do you want gate number one, gate number two, or gate number three?