The Cellar - The Gender Equality Checkpoint

The Cellar (http://cellar.org/index.php)

- Politics (http://cellar.org/forumdisplay.php?f=5)

- - The Gender Equality Checkpoint (http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=30908)

No woman, no drive. :rolleyes:

Oh Christ, this is sick.

Quote:

What Open Marriage Taught One Man About Feminism
As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. It’s her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, she’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist.

And it gets sicker.

A reply.

Quote:

Um, monogamy means you BOTH control each other’s sexual expression, to the extent that you expect fidelity. It’s a submission, sure, but it’s a mutual submission- and it has benefits. This “asking your partner to be faithful is patriarchal oppression” bullshit is just a sick, sad cover story for a marriage that’s lost its spark. What if I said, “hey baby, I need a side ho to counteract your matriarchal oppression in order to express my sexual agency”? It sounds like pure bullshit coming from the mouth of a man, because it’s pure bullshit. It’s someone with a women’s studies degree justifying away being a skeezbag. I know, I have a women’s studies degree. I speak the language.

Progress from IBM.

Quote:

Big Blue will soon launch a service that allows moms traveling on business to send expressed breast milk back home to their babies.

My one and only experience of an 'open relationship' was during my first year with J. I'd drifted into his orbit - a world of far left politics, theatre folk and activists - and desperately did not want to be uncool about it.

It didn't last very long. Roughly until I exercised my side of the open relationship* at which point the idea seemed to lose its lustre for J.

*a horrible experience on a beach in Skegness - with an activist and wannabe people's poet at the Socialist Workers Party annual convention.

A lesson for not only women, but voters who feel powerless. If you want it, you can get it.

Golda Meir was elected prime minister of Israel in 1969, Indira Gandhi in 1966... Unless they specifically mean "the first leader who's elected office is called a presidency", which is a pretty lame loophole, I am not sure how they came up with that one.

Quote:

01.08.1980-01.08.1996 President Vigdís Finnbogadóttir, Iceland

In 1972-80 Director of Iceland’s National Theatre was the world’s first democratically elected female President. Since 1996 she has been involved in a wide range of international humanitarian and cultural organizations. She was a divorcee and mother of an adopted a daughter. (b.1930-).

link

Just because the statement does meet your criteria doesn't make it a loophole, it means you didn't read for content.:p:

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 934091)

link

...That says that both Bolivia and Argentina call their head of state office the presidency and had women fulfilling those roles before Iceland... wouldn't that meant that even with that added arbitrary criteria that meme still got it wrong?

Does "democratically elected" ring a bell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 934096)

Does "democratically elected" ring a bell.

So not the first democratically elected female head of state...
Not the first female head of state who's position is called a presidency...

This seems to be

Might as well say she wsa the first female Forseti ever - since no prior female president was called that in icelandic... Hell golda meir was the first female rosh memshala...

And there's a good chance they all were the first female elected leaders who did so while owning a particular breed of dogs while driving a particular type of car and almost certainly the first female presidents to have their great aunt from their mother's side live in whichever particular address she happened to have lived in...

At what point does the impression the title "first woman president" seems to try to imprint is kind of getting lost?

Your right to not understand is constitutionally protected. Run with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 934102)

Your right to not understand is constitutionally protected. Run with it.

As is yours: I understand they wanted to highlight the significance of the victory and saying she was the first was helpful towards that... I am saying the reason it was helpful in highlighting the significance of the victory is by creating a false impression while using a technically correct statement. Contrast with a scenario where the author would assume most if the audience was knowledgeable about history, and the highlight no longer has any effect.

You own your false impressions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 934107)

You own your false impressions.

Yes and no.
Yes - you can say it's people's fault for not knowing the history of women leaders throughout the world.
No - that doesn't exempt the meme author from an attempt to deceive people reading it by utilizing that ignorance.