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monster 04-13-2011 09:43 PM

Crossing borders: A musing
 
Why is it that the people who want to restrict the influx of foreigners into the US are generally also the ones who support US soldiers being in foreign countries? Sure, the purposes and intended durations are different, but if borders are such an important part of national identity/security, why is it OK for to "violate" others' borders so? And if borders are not an important part of national identity/security, why are we so concerned about them?

Maybe I'm trolling or maybe I have a point? Whichever you think, please keep it nice, thanks :)

Clodfobble 04-13-2011 11:31 PM

I wouldn't point out this parallel to any of them, if I were you. It'll just inspire them to put roadside bombs and snipers along the Rio Grande.

anonymoo 04-13-2011 11:34 PM

5of5 here. it seems like you have an immigrant's point of view on borders. there is nothing wrong will legal immigration. what we detest are the illegal immigrants. we welcome you if you do it legally, if you don't you are a criminal. simple

Clodfobble 04-13-2011 11:36 PM

Ah, but there must be more to it than that, 5 of 5, unless you also would support any and all measures to make the process of legal immigration easy, inexpensive, and fast.

anonymoo 04-13-2011 11:51 PM

why should it be easy, inexpensive, or fast?

Griff 04-14-2011 07:12 AM

So the foreign troops can mass quickly. ;)

Spexxvet 04-14-2011 08:07 AM

OMFG! 5of5 is UG! Now I'll have to put anonymoo on ignore, too.

infinite monkey 04-14-2011 08:12 AM

Which one: anonymoo, anonygoo, anonypoo, anonyloo, or anonystew?

SamIam 04-14-2011 12:30 PM

Well, US immigrants are not pouring into Afganistan, etc. US soldiers are, however, and the effect is even more detrimental.

What you are forgetting is that the US does not implement policy based on any sort of universal ethic or ideal or even logic. US policy is about whatever political party currently in power thinks is best for itself and its major contributors - to hell with everyone else.

Clodfobble 04-14-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymoo
why should it be easy, inexpensive, or fast?

Why should it be hard, expensive, and slow?

SamIam 04-14-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymoo (Post 722898)
why should it be easy, inexpensive, or fast?

If it's LEGAL, it should be efficient. Why waste even more tax payer money dinking around?

monster 04-14-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 723057)
If it's LEGAL, it should be efficient. Why waste even more tax payer money dinking around?

It's not the taxpayer's money that's wasted..... oh wait, I do pay taxes. Even though I can't help choose who spends it......

jimhelm 04-14-2011 05:29 PM

I gotta say.... this thread has yet to be amusing.

infinite monkey 04-14-2011 05:55 PM

Your muse has arrived. :muse:

So an immigrant walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder...

I got nuttin'

Flint 04-14-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 722875)
... why is it OK for to "violate" others' borders so?

I'll give it a shot...

The dudes who bang hookers in the butthole would be the same ones to get an "EXIT ONLY" sign tattooed on their ass?


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