I've considered this phenom for some time (probably right around when they started throwing Palin in our face.) If they present stupid women, they reinforce the attitude that women are too stupid to 'do' politics. It keeps the fat pasty guys in control. Really, just a microcosm of everything that still goes on in this day and age.

Don't forget, black men were afforded the right to vote 50 years before women. I'm sure there are a lot of conclusions to be drawn from that in reference to the history of women's issues in this country, but there isn't enough time to draw them all.

We've come a long way baby. We've miles to go.

Now get in that kitchen and make me a pie.

There are plenty of wacko male politicians too. I think the fact that one of them was President for two terms reset the switch on that and a new kind of male figure is needed now.

The Sara Palin, Michelle Bachman phenomenon is just a natural extension of the anti-intellectual, faux-egalitarian political ideal of the Right. No nonsense, house-wife/hockey mom, homespun wisdom. None of your airy-fairy, Ivory Tower, college-brainwashed, liberal elitism. Just good old fashioned common sense from God fearing, feisty, but still sexy moms.

There are lots of rather dumb men in politics but we aren't interested in that narrative.

but they've always been there - since day one. Women on the scene are a newer phenom - so why are they almost exclusively morons?

Where's the Ann Richardsons? (Ann Richards? you know, the ex-Texas gov.)

I guess we've made ourselves so equal that we can be equally stupid, too.

They're Democrats or in The Cellar.

It's a counter to the Ann Richards and the Hillary Clintons. Anything to discredit women so that those who are capable never EVER make it to president.

Oh, and read any handful of articles online about male and female idiot politicians.

Male politician user comments:

snappy34: He is just another example of the blah blah of the political blah blah (UG type diatribe)

dando5: snappy, you're ignorant of the facts...blah blah (tw type diatribe)

gershwin: but if we were to cap and tax the infrastructure of the melodical theocracies, we might...blah blah blah

godsquad: he will writhe in hell

modgod: he is righteous and will ascend to the right hand of the lord.

Female politicians user comments:

snappy34: She has some good ideas but her take on the international wayside of the banterifical shows she isn't ready...

dogbutt6: She is a danger to the country...

melvin09: I'd totally hit that!

frankfurter: Put some duct tape over her mouth and bend her over the table!

snappy34: Oh hell YEAH. I'd hit that too! Nice tits.

dogbutt6 did not say that! How dare you put words in my his/her mouth.

Draxbutt? :lol:

On the state scene...

Staying the hell away from the Republican party.

Im not even sure this is real...I mean Really!?! :eek:

Got to page 3 of the newsletter.

Source : Huffington Post

Though the letter looks legitimate, I didn't see any mention of Giffords in the message. Regardless if it is or isn't the kind of gun that was used to attack Giffords, it seems like that section of the newsletter is in keeping with the rest of the letter and the rest of the GOP mindset. I did find two things unusual about it.

1 -- They're only selling 125 tickets at 10 dollars a ticket. Why? I reckon the gun costs several hundred dollars, why limit the ticket sales?

2 -- I have some questions about the legality of offering a gun as a prize in a raffle like this. Really? I thought the transfer of guns was regulated more strictly. It seems there must be more to this aspect of the story.

Pima County is her district. The total lack of sensitivity and judgement is in question here. She was shot with the same type of gun only 7 months ago.

Well, it says "new."

"Gently used."

One careful owner.

"Owned by a little old lady from Pasadena who only shot people in the head on Sunday."

*blinks*

Her name is Hillary.

Hillary is capable. Condy Rice was capable too, although I strongly dislike her politics.

good point.

Only 125 tickets, sound like a good deal to me.

And there is your answer. It appeals to the rank and file.

That is a pretty short buy in for a really good handgun. Can't argue with that!

"Rank and File", :lol: what tool....

Talk english, it aren't that hard.

Responding to glatt. Figure it out.

What tool...

think it out.

Been there, done it. You figure it out.

you're calling glatt a tool? that's my guess. why is he a tool for pointing out the obvious that a fundraising effort in a gop newsletter will appeal to the people that receive the newsletter? Seriously?

Ok, skip the english, talk sense, if you can. Why does such a statement make him a tool?

No BigV, YOU need to prove why glatt is not a tool. Otherwise, if you can't prove he's not, then he is.

Nope.

I'm not your only or last friend, mercy. I am civil to you and I strain to understand and accept your points of view. But you're beyond me. If you care to clarify your point of view, have at it. I might get it, I might not.

But I'll tell you this, you might not be stupid, but you post stupid a lot of the time.

Trying to avoid the ad hominems for a minute, is it legal to offer a gun as a raffle prize? What if the winner is mentally ill or a convicted felon or some such?

ETA: you may now resume your scheduled personal abuse. You fuckers.

Generally speaking, it would be the convicted felon's responsibility not to have (get caught with) a gun. And there are many states that do not have laws against the mentally ill having a gun. There is an age limit in most places, but there is also a gambling age limit preventing them from participating in raffles. Depending on where they are, the winner may or may not have to go through some standard waiting period before actually retrieving his new weapon from the retailer.

I cite Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA) as a counterexample. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) as an example of one who seems... rather off. Past the Sell-By date.

Waters is the kind of gal the TEA Partiers vote against. Though her constituency... deserves her. Pelosi, being of the Great Big Government spend-the-money-you-don't-have persuasion -- gotta keep the bread and circuses going regardless -- is another, being fiscally irresponsible in the largest humanly possible way.

Voting oneself the treasury isn't much good if you're inflating the currency. This is one reason I think Democrats are such dopes.

Dude - seriously? The R's have done more of both than the D's.

Dude, it's kind of hard to beat obligating to a 14 trillion dollar debt. This is astronomically irresponsible.

Not being thrilled with the Republicans' degree of fiscal discipline either is why I often vote Libertarian instead of anything from the Big Two.

But the Democrats -- they've taken it to an absurd scale. Unsustainable. And uncaring also.

ok. Define what makes up that debt.
Have you considered the amount for the wars which were not accounted for under the last administration? Y/N only please.
How much was that?

He's harmless. Didja notice the Y/N part.. ")

So was UG advocating not honoring our debt, while the world economy teeters? Ron Paul used to talk about how a transition to a less active/intrusive government had to be incremental to avoid unnecessary suffering and trauma. As far as labels go, I wouldn't call any of these Republicans, accept for Paul, libertarian at least not in the social realm.

The press seems to be giving Huntsman the Ron Paul treatment, maybe because he is close enough to center to be electable?

Correct. Otherwise you are a tool! :lol2:

file = tool? Or am I reading too much into it?

In Vermont, 10 minutes drive away, a Vermont resident can walk into a gun shop and buy a handgun with only a brief phone call by the dealer to the ATF. In New York state there is an expensive and lengthy permit process that can cost a few hundred dollars and take up to 15 months.

It depends on the state and as CF points out it probably has as much or more to do with the laws governing lottery and prizes. That may have something to do with the 125 ticket limit.

[ stares in wonder ]

After the port Aurthur massacre in 1996, we made a law that crazy people aren't allowed to have guns.

I guess over there that would disarm half the population. ;) ;) ;)

Scooping mercy's "O ba mi na tion" folderol and LL's thread where he has no dog... I give you Rick Perry's character assassination of President Obama, "Lazy Americans".



Incidentally, it's not true, but it's the best kind of lie, big, short, right out there in front, making people deny it. The fact is, I think it shows Rick Perry to be either incapable of holding a whole paragraph of thought in his head (stupid) or a liar himself, putting words in the President's mouth "that what is wrong with America is that the President thinks Americans are lazy?" He may be both.

Rick Perry, you're pathetic.

You can see that Perry is very proud of himself in this ad... No Ooooops !

What easier way can someone make a crowd angry with their opponent
than by telling them the other guy said something nasty about them.

Even if the opponent didn't say it, it puts him/her on the defensive,
and heats up the scene.

Now, can we tell Mr Not-Mitt Perry that Romney said it first - last Tuesday ?

IIRC, Rush beat them both by almost, if not more than a year.

Andrew Belonsky
November 17, 2011

My 82 year-old father has been, up until 2004, a life-long straight across-the-board Republican.

I asked him yesterday if he'd ever seen anything as insane as the current Republican Presidential line up. He said, "No."

He always referred to "W" as King George.

He's a funny guy.

:D

"I can’t remember the 3rd thing,” - Pelosi

:lol: that's a zing.

Perry's voice, his smarm, his attitude...he's like a political robotoid, and I wouldn't buy a used car from him.

Zingiful! :lol:

Yep.

It's just a smear. Perry's is more offensive I believe because of two things. One, he's made a television commercial about it. The commercial is likely to have a far wider reach than a story like the one linked to. And television's very medium can deliver a short, emotional message with more impact than a paper news story. And then there's the content of each message. Perry included just the red meat "Americans are lazy" and none of the exculpatory content. Who needs content anyhow.

Both messages are misleading, however, they are likely to be believed by those who have already made up their mind about President Obama's character and intent on other similar ideas: he's a socialist, he wants to destroy the economy, he hates business, he hates America. It's all bullshit, and anyone who gives those ideas any credibility beyond a flat "No." is a fool.

Of course it is. The other thing you forgot was that he is pandering to the base now more than ever in an attempt to try and salvage his campaign.
..and again has already made up their mind - hence what's the point? Preaching to the choir comes to mind.

The ad is now being played over and over for free in places like The Cellar

So? Blame V for that ;)

Again the only ones who are going to respond positively to it have already made up their minds.

"Blame V" ? No, it's been fun.

"only ones..." Ummmm. That's what advertising is all about...
reaching the "leaning towards " and "undecided"
And/or weakening the"leaning away from"

See the smilie - I was kidding.
No harm no foul.

Herman Cain has requested Secret Service Protection.
Reporters are concerned the Service will block their access to Cain.
One reporter said: "Now Cain will be surrounded by a phalanx of body guards"

Can you ever be surrounded by a phalanx of anything ?
.



LL has now returned to the grammar-nazi's barracks.

Of course you can be surrounded by a phalanx of defenders, such as Secret Service members. It just means a rectangular formation of soldiers.