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lumberjim 06-26-2013 11:46 AM

Ok a, mystery solved. It must have come down the chimney. There was a bit of a gap between the fireplace cover and the chimney. Lots of bird shit all over the window sills in my living room.

Lamplighter 06-26-2013 12:11 PM

chimney or hood vent ?

Clodfobble 06-26-2013 12:13 PM

I think that's a question best put off until the second or third date, at least.

Lamplighter 06-26-2013 12:17 PM


BigV 06-26-2013 01:22 PM

I've had this trouble.

I took a couple yards of hardware cloth and fashioned a hood/bag for the top of the stovepipe. This kept the birds out. I drive by this house today from time to time and my work is still on the top of the stovepipe almost 20 years later.

glatt 06-26-2013 01:31 PM

Chimney caps are awesome. After a bird in the basement and a raccoon in our chimney, we got one.

I guess if it's a rental, then you'd be a fool to install one for your landlord. Birds coming down a chimney are pretty rare. probably won't happen again for as long as you are there.

lumberjim 06-26-2013 01:38 PM

I googled birds in the house and omens. The consensus is that if the bird lives and escapes then its a good omen. Possibly a deceased relative coming to visit. If the bird dies, that could portend ill luck.

ZenGum 06-26-2013 07:46 PM


its a good omen. Possibly a deceased relative coming to visit.
We clearly have a different idea of "good" events!! :eek:

lumberjim 06-27-2013 09:33 AM

Last night at about 1030 I heard water gushing in my bathroom. I went in and saw if you rubbing with poop and all kinds of yucky water. The tub with bubbling and so was the kitchen sink. Down to the basement there's an inch of water standing.

Apparently the main drain was clogged full of roots. I had a plumber come out for emergency service. Arrived around midnight. And kept me up until about quarter of 4.

Just 12 more hours of work to go .... and then i can go back to bed.

Undertoad 06-27-2013 10:14 AM

BigV 06-27-2013 12:05 PM

so. gross.

I had them visit my house a while back and the machine they used was about the size of a washing machine. it had distance markers on the 3/4" - 1" snake (??) and he fed it into the main cleanout in the main waste stack in the basement. Gah, the smell was utterly foul. He also found roots *inside* the sewer line. he said that the sewer lines in this area, from back in the day, were made of concrete and that they were ... porous? at any rate, the roots sensed their delicious cargo of moisture and nutrients and proceeded accordingly, that is, into the pipe. the roots cut off by the blade and hauled back when the snake was retracted (DO NOT TOUCH!!) looked like hair. black hair. that's enough (with enough of them) to slow the drain and cause a blockage like you described. he said he paid out enough line to reach to the center of the street from my basement wall, well beyond the reach in distance and diameter of any drain snaking tool I have. I have a fifty footer that I can drive with my drill or by hand, and that wouldn't have even reached the trouble. that's a long column of black water; fuck, I might even want to discard the snake after a trip through that. so fucking gross.

jimhelm 06-27-2013 12:51 PM

wow, i didn't realize what a butchering the voice to text gave that post. you really have to talk like a robot when there is background noise.

so, yeah. the place I'm in does not have a clean-out. ...and the landlord just re did the drain system a month before I moved in... must have opted not to have a clean-out installed at that time.

This trip cost him $600.

The upstairs neighbor's stuff was in the part of the basement that got wet.... and shitty... I'll post a couple pics in a minute... but there were globs of shit on top of the washing machine that sits under the drain pipe.


The plumber(who got a $20 tip from me) that came did me a huge solid, and cleaned the bathroom floor up with bleach. even did half way up the walls.... All I had to clean was the tub, and that only had a little bit in it. oh, and the kitchen sink.... again. after the bird, I had just cleaned the kitchen sink, counters, window sills and the mantle piece in the living room.

so, I guess the silver lining is that my house got cleaned yesterday.

lumberjim 06-27-2013 01:08 PM

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That is the pipe that it all backed up out of. It is supposed to be for the washing machine overflow. I thought they had to have a one-way valve installed between the sewer and any appliance. The plumber said that no they don't really.
But this is what you get when you don't and your sewer pipe backs up:
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BigV 06-27-2013 01:21 PM


glatt 06-27-2013 01:36 PM


who gets to clean up the basement?

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