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TheMercenary 09-02-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 754198)
you're calling glatt a tool?

Nope.

BigV 09-02-2011 09:06 PM

I'm not your only or last friend, mercy. I am civil to you and I strain to understand and accept your points of view. But you're beyond me. If you care to clarify your point of view, have at it. I might get it, I might not.

But I'll tell you this, you might not be stupid, but you post stupid a lot of the time.

ZenGum 09-02-2011 11:42 PM

Trying to avoid the ad hominems for a minute, is it legal to offer a gun as a raffle prize? What if the winner is mentally ill or a convicted felon or some such?

ETA: you may now resume your scheduled personal abuse. You fuckers.

Clodfobble 09-03-2011 10:30 AM

Generally speaking, it would be the convicted felon's responsibility not to have (get caught with) a gun. And there are many states that do not have laws against the mentally ill having a gun. There is an age limit in most places, but there is also a gambling age limit preventing them from participating in raffles. Depending on where they are, the winner may or may not have to go through some standard waiting period before actually retrieving his new weapon from the retailer.

Urbane Guerrilla 09-07-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 753904)
They're Democrats or in The Cellar.

I cite Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA) as a counterexample. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) as an example of one who seems... rather off. Past the Sell-By date.

Waters is the kind of gal the TEA Partiers vote against. Though her constituency... deserves her. Pelosi, being of the Great Big Government spend-the-money-you-don't-have persuasion -- gotta keep the bread and circuses going regardless -- is another, being fiscally irresponsible in the largest humanly possible way.

Voting oneself the treasury isn't much good if you're inflating the currency. This is one reason I think Democrats are such dopes.

classicman 09-07-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 754976)
being fiscally irresponsible in the largest humanly possible way.

Voting oneself the treasury isn't much good if you're inflating the currency.

Dude - seriously? The R's have done more of both than the D's.

Urbane Guerrilla 09-08-2011 12:24 AM

Dude, it's kind of hard to beat obligating to a 14 trillion dollar debt. This is astronomically irresponsible.

Not being thrilled with the Republicans' degree of fiscal discipline either is why I often vote Libertarian instead of anything from the Big Two.

But the Democrats -- they've taken it to an absurd scale. Unsustainable. And uncaring also.

classicman 09-08-2011 12:54 PM

ok. Define what makes up that debt.
Have you considered the amount for the wars which were not accounted for under the last administration? Y/N only please.
How much was that?

SamIam 09-08-2011 05:09 PM

pssssst! Classic! Arguing with UG is like arguing with the Borg. You WILL be assimilated. :eek:

classicman 09-08-2011 05:13 PM

He's harmless. Didja notice the Y/N part.. ")

Griff 09-08-2011 05:39 PM

So was UG advocating not honoring our debt, while the world economy teeters? Ron Paul used to talk about how a transition to a less active/intrusive government had to be incremental to avoid unnecessary suffering and trauma. As far as labels go, I wouldn't call any of these Republicans, accept for Paul, libertarian at least not in the social realm.

The press seems to be giving Huntsman the Ron Paul treatment, maybe because he is close enough to center to be electable?

TheMercenary 09-08-2011 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty (Post 754199)
No BigV, YOU need to prove why glatt is not a tool. Otherwise, if you can't prove he's not, then he is.

Correct. Otherwise you are a tool! :lol2:

footfootfoot 09-08-2011 07:59 PM

file = tool? Or am I reading too much into it?

footfootfoot 09-08-2011 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 754222)
Trying to avoid the ad hominems for a minute, is it legal to offer a gun as a raffle prize? What if the winner is mentally ill or a convicted felon or some such?

ETA: you may now resume your scheduled personal abuse. You fuckers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 754280)
Generally speaking, it would be the convicted felon's responsibility not to have (get caught with) a gun. And there are many states that do not have laws against the mentally ill having a gun. There is an age limit in most places, but there is also a gambling age limit preventing them from participating in raffles. Depending on where they are, the winner may or may not have to go through some standard waiting period before actually retrieving his new weapon from the retailer.

In Vermont, 10 minutes drive away, a Vermont resident can walk into a gun shop and buy a handgun with only a brief phone call by the dealer to the ATF. In New York state there is an expensive and lengthy permit process that can cost a few hundred dollars and take up to 15 months.

It depends on the state and as CF points out it probably has as much or more to do with the laws governing lottery and prizes. That may have something to do with the 125 ticket limit.

ZenGum 09-09-2011 04:23 AM

[ stares in wonder ]

After the port Aurthur massacre in 1996, we made a law that crazy people aren't allowed to have guns.

I guess over there that would disarm half the population. ;) ;) ;)


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