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BigV 11-17-2011 06:25 PM

Scooping mercy's "O ba mi na tion" folderol and LL's thread where he has no dog... I give you Rick Perry's character assassination of President Obama, "Lazy Americans".



Incidentally, it's not true, but it's the best kind of lie, big, short, right out there in front, making people deny it. The fact is, I think it shows Rick Perry to be either incapable of holding a whole paragraph of thought in his head (stupid) or a liar himself, putting words in the President's mouth "that what is wrong with America is that the President thinks Americans are lazy?" He may be both.

Rick Perry, you're pathetic.

Lamplighter 11-17-2011 08:44 PM

You can see that Perry is very proud of himself in this ad... No Ooooops !

What easier way can someone make a crowd angry with their opponent
than by telling them the other guy said something nasty about them.

Even if the opponent didn't say it, it puts him/her on the defensive,
and heats up the scene.

Now, can we tell Mr Not-Mitt Perry that Romney said it first - last Tuesday ?

classicman 11-17-2011 09:07 PM

IIRC, Rush beat them both by almost, if not more than a year.

Lamplighter 11-17-2011 11:49 PM

Andrew Belonsky
November 17, 2011
Quote:

Rick Perry has proven himself to be a totally terrible debater.
Despite all resulting the bad press and hemorrhaging public support,
the presidential candidate drew attention to his foible by challenging
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a figure reviled in Republican circles,
to a one-on-one face-off.

“I am in Washington Monday and would love to engage you in a public debate
about my Overhaul Washington plan versus the congressional status quo,”
Perry wrote to Pelosi in an intentionally leaked letter obtained by GOP 12′s Christian Heinze.

Taking pity on Perry, though, Pelosi cordially declined his invitation.

“Re: Gov. Perry –
Monday I’ll be in Portland.
Later visiting labs in CA. That’s 2.
I can’t remember the 3rd thing,”

<snip>

Trilby 11-18-2011 03:34 AM

My 82 year-old father has been, up until 2004, a life-long straight across-the-board Republican.

I asked him yesterday if he'd ever seen anything as insane as the current Republican Presidential line up. He said, "No."

He always referred to "W" as King George.

He's a funny guy.

:D

ZenGum 11-18-2011 06:00 AM

"I can’t remember the 3rd thing,” - Pelosi

:lol: that's a zing.

infinite monkey 11-18-2011 07:10 AM

Perry's voice, his smarm, his attitude...he's like a political robotoid, and I wouldn't buy a used car from him.

Quote:

"I can’t remember the 3rd thing,” - Pelosi

that's a zing.
Zingiful! :lol:

BigV 11-18-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 773776)
You can see that Perry is very proud of himself in this ad... No Ooooops !

What easier way can someone make a crowd angry with their opponent
than by telling them the other guy said something nasty about them.

Even if the opponent didn't say it, it puts him/her on the defensive,
and heats up the scene.

Now, can we tell Mr Not-Mitt Perry that Romney said it first - last Tuesday ?

Yep.

It's just a smear. Perry's is more offensive I believe because of two things. One, he's made a television commercial about it. The commercial is likely to have a far wider reach than a story like the one linked to. And television's very medium can deliver a short, emotional message with more impact than a paper news story. And then there's the content of each message. Perry included just the red meat "Americans are lazy" and none of the exculpatory content. Who needs content anyhow.

Both messages are misleading, however, they are likely to be believed by those who have already made up their mind about President Obama's character and intent on other similar ideas: he's a socialist, he wants to destroy the economy, he hates business, he hates America. It's all bullshit, and anyone who gives those ideas any credibility beyond a flat "No." is a fool.

classicman 11-18-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 773862)
Yep.
It's just a smear.

Of course it is. The other thing you forgot was that he is pandering to the base now more than ever in an attempt to try and salvage his campaign.
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 773862)
they are likely to be believed by those who have already made up their mind about President Obama~snip~
It's all bullshit, and anyone who gives those ideas any credibility beyond a flat "No." is a fool.

..and again has already made up their mind - hence what's the point? Preaching to the choir comes to mind.

Lamplighter 11-18-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 773922)
<snip>
..and again has already made up their mind - hence what's the point? Preaching to the choir comes to mind.

The ad is now being played over and over for free in places like The Cellar

classicman 11-18-2011 11:49 AM

So? Blame V for that ;)

Again the only ones who are going to respond positively to it have already made up their minds.

Lamplighter 11-18-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 773943)
So? Blame V for that ;)

Again the only ones who are going to respond positively to it have already made up their minds.

"Blame V" ? No, it's been fun.

"only ones..." Ummmm. That's what advertising is all about...
reaching the "leaning towards " and "undecided"
And/or weakening the"leaning away from"

classicman 11-18-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 773947)
"Blame V" ? No, it's been fun.

See the smilie - I was kidding.
No harm no foul.

Lamplighter 11-18-2011 01:44 PM

Herman Cain has requested Secret Service Protection.
Reporters are concerned the Service will block their access to Cain.
One reporter said: "Now Cain will be surrounded by a phalanx of body guards"

Can you ever be surrounded by a phalanx of anything ?
.



LL has now returned to the grammar-nazi's barracks.

BigV 11-18-2011 01:50 PM

Of course you can be surrounded by a phalanx of defenders, such as Secret Service members. It just means a rectangular formation of soldiers.


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