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tw 11-15-2018 02:48 PM

I would love to better understand how these fires work. View the picture. An entire right roadside grass and trees unburned. With complete devastation all around.

Same applies to so many pictures in Paradise. Entire homes burn only to ashes - even metal gone. And adjacent are unburned trees.

Apparently nobody stays around to record how this happens. And yet that (and not the resulting devastation) are pictures we all need more. Since news (from actual newsmen) must always leave us better informed. And not waste time with emotions over the resulting devastation that bimbos want to report.

One interesting story is how a couple survived by staying in their pool. One would think that was a no brainer. And then we learn what they said. Even in the pool, they had difficulty surviving. Facts we should all understand - when news is reporting what is relevant.

glatt 11-15-2018 03:33 PM

Maybe people felt it was dangerous to stay behind and film?

Maybe the power went out an hour or two before the fire arrived so any cameras left behind recording lost power?

My brother has numerous hard wired game cameras on his property and along his driveway, but they all lost power. He did stick around for an hour or two packing up and watching helicopters filling their buckets from the farm pond next door, but then it was time to help a neighbor wrangle house cats and hit the road.

Fortunately for him his road was deserted because it was blocked by fire at Paradise, so he had no trouble driving out. Not such good fortune for the people who died in their cars in Paradise.

glatt 11-15-2018 03:35 PM

He told me that an hour or two after he left, his neighbor finally left, and at that time, according to the neighbor "golf ball sized" flaming embers were falling from the sky everywhere.

Gravdigr 11-15-2018 03:39 PM

I wouldn't live in a place that regularly threatened my life.:headshake

Diaphone Jim 11-15-2018 06:57 PM

Embers, little Molotov Cocktails, carried by 50 + mile an hour hot dry winds.
In Santa Rosa the fire jumped 6 lanes of freeway, with median and pull-over lanes and frontage roads on both side.
Makes foolish 100 foot cleared "defensible" zones, especially when the power goes off taking your well with it.
Those ember bombs can't be new, but they have been the driving force behind the destruction of nearly ten towns in the past three years in Northern California.

xoxoxoBruce 11-15-2018 10:09 PM

As the climate changes it will only get worse.
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Each fall, strong gusts known as the Santa Ana winds bring dry air from the Great Basin area of the West into Southern California, said Fengpeng Sun, an assistant professor in the department of geosciences at the University of Missouri-Kansas City.

Dr. Sun is a co-author of a 2015 study that suggests that California has two distinct fire seasons. One, which runs from June through September and is driven by a combination of warmer and drier weather, is the Western fire season that most people think of. Those wildfires tend to be more inland, in higher-elevation forests.

But Dr. Sun and his co-authors also identified a second fire season that runs from October through April and is driven by the Santa Ana winds. Those fires tend to spread three times faster and burn closer to urban areas, and they were responsible for 80 percent of the economic losses over two decades beginning in 1990.
It’s not just that the Santa Ana winds dry out vegetation; they also move embers around, spreading fires.
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Dude111 11-16-2018 07:50 AM

I think its sad TRUMP is threatening california that he will STOP FEDERAL AID if they dont get the fires under control!!!!

http://www.vox.com/energy-and-enviro...climate-change

HOW ABOUT HE GET OFF HIS ASS AND HELP THEM!!!!!!!! -- He has more $$$$$ then anyone!!!!!!


Unreal bastard!!!!!!


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