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marichiko 06-09-2006 10:44 PM

Suffer the little children...
 
I posted down in the relationship's forum about getting involved with a man I knew I would have serious issues with.

Well. the first has already raised its ugly head. He was raised a Pentecostal Christian and he believes unbaptized children go to hell - even itty bitty ones who are a day or two old. He says these children go to hell to punish theiir parents with their suffering.

HUH!?

How can anyone who subscribes to this belief be a genuine, kind person in the here and now?????

Thoughts, please?

wolf 06-09-2006 11:04 PM

If my theory is correct, the more uncomfortable you are, the better a relationship you will have, so ... ;)

On a more serious note:

If that kind of belief is a deal breaker for you, then follow your own insticts and ethics regarding relationships.

Ask him what he thinks about Catholic Limbo, although I understand that the last Pope shut down Limbo shortly before he died.

(If he holds that closely to his Pentecostal beliefs, incidentally, you ain't gonna get none without convertin' and marryin'.)

xoxoxoBruce 06-10-2006 12:45 AM

Your best option is in between "In the Flesh" and "Waiting for the Worms". ;)










Hint....Pink Floyd's The Wall.

Ibby 06-10-2006 01:22 AM

Dammit Bruce, now I have to go listen to some Floyd.

CAUSE IF THEY CATCH YOU IN THE BACKSEAT TRYIN'TA PICK HER LOCKS
THEYRE GONNA SEND YOU BACK TO MOTHER IN A CARDBOARD BOX!

zippyt 06-10-2006 01:36 AM

CAUSE IF THEY CATCH YOU IN THE BACKSEAT TRYIN'TA PICK HER LOCKS
THEYRE GONNA SEND YOU BACK TO MOTHER IN A CARDBOARD BOX!


You beter RUN !!!

Ibby 06-10-2006 03:12 AM

The singer for the fascist trio on Is There Anybody Out There - The Wall Live 80-81 is so cool.

Are there any... paranoids in the audience tonight? Is there anyone that worries about things?
...Pathetic.
This is for all the WEAK people in the audience! Is there anyone here who's weak?
This is for you, it's called Run Like Hell.

Kagen4o4 06-10-2006 04:20 AM

Mari. hes a dick. dead babies all go to the same place we do. the ground.

WabUfvot5 06-10-2006 04:23 AM

Most religions make their followers feel chosen in some way. The more who goto hell, no matter how stupid the reason, the more the follower feels special / chosen / blessed.

DanaC 06-10-2006 04:48 AM

I have no patience whatsoever with creeds that fill people up with such dangerous and damaging nonsense. Why dangerous and damaging? Because it causes distress to so many people when they most need comfort.

My Granddad went to the grave convinced he was going to hell. Not some Mormen idea of it being just like heaven but without the presence of God....no. Flesh burning, bone melting, demon infested, humiliating and devastating Hell.

Bastards.

Trilby 06-10-2006 07:18 AM

Hell? Shooooooot, girl. I already been there! They don't send babies to hell. Lord, lord. I agree with Pink Floyd and zippyt: You better RUN.

MaggieL 06-10-2006 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marichiko
Suffer the little children

Yikes...the Pentacostal nonsense aside, let's not corrupt the meaning of the Biblical quote.

In full, it would read:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark10:13-16
And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.

But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.

In this case "suffer" means "allow"...it doesn't have anything to do with "suffering" in the modern sense.

You'd have to reach out to OT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus 20:5-6
You shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them. For I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation of those that hate me, and showing mercy to thousands of those that love Me and keep My commandments.

...or maybe go non-Biblical to...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euripides (c. 485-406 B.C.), Phrixus, fragment 970
The gods visit the sins of the fathers upon the children.

...or...

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Horace, "Odes," III, 6, l. 1.
For the sins of your fathers you, though guiltless, must suffer.

...which probably found its way to...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice, III,V,l.1
The sins of the father are to be laid upon the children.


xoxoxoBruce 06-10-2006 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram
The singer for the fascist trio on Is There Anybody Out There - The Wall Live 80-81 is so cool.

Are there any... paranoids in the audience tonight? Is there anyone that worries about things?
...Pathetic.
This is for all the WEAK people in the audience! Is there anyone here who's weak?
This is for you, it's called Run Like Hell.

We have a winner. :D

Ibby 06-11-2006 06:35 AM

Come ONNNN, Bruce, that was too easy. I didn't even need the hint! I don't think you can find a bigger Floyd fan that wasnt alive when floyd was actually around.

xoxoxoBruce 06-11-2006 10:22 AM

But you're not normal. :lol:

skysidhe 06-11-2006 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
But you're not normal. :lol:


'Not normal' as in 'not common place' or 'not run of the mill' but you probably already knew that Ibram.

and Bruce expected you to know that.



I'm just being protective I guess. I dunno why :smack:


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