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jaguar 02-27-2002 12:01 AM

Valenti ranting again
 
here
Is the best summary i found.
Does anyone think we're going ot see that kinda of end-to-end encrpyion/propriatory systems in the reasonably future? WIll they get away with it? I was looking at the stats for the DVD-killer Blu-wave thingy, they seem to be getting allot more serious with copy protection, opinions?

Nic Name 02-27-2002 12:12 AM

Is The Register dissin' ol' Jack?

Quote:

Motion Picture Ass. of America (MPAA) President Jack Valenti ...

jaguar 02-27-2002 05:04 AM

asinine mabye? =)
(yes i realise one too many s's)

dave 02-27-2002 09:51 AM

Nah, they're definitely calling him an Ass. They do it repeatedly throughout the article. And that's okay. :)

russotto 02-27-2002 10:51 AM

Valenti is the guy who compared the VCR to the Boston Strangler.

The latter once met him, but left him alone out of professional courtesy.

MaggieL 02-27-2002 12:58 PM

Re: Valenti ranting again
 
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Originally posted by jaguar
[ I was looking at the stats for the DVD-killer Blu-wave thingy, they seem to be getting allot more serious with copy protection, opinions?
They're absolutely serious about it, and Fritz Hollings is back on the bandwagon with Congressional support for it, too. Before too long Gates and Microsoft will couple their "Secure Windows" campaign to it, and pretty soon owning your own computer instead of effectively renting one from Microsoft will be as suspect as being your own gunsmith. After all, what's to stop you from doing something nefarious (==unprofitable for the Beast) ?

Keep an eye on the government/Microsoft connection: MS just replaced their head data security guy with the government suit who was replaced with the previous MS security guy.

The RIAA/MPAA crowd of explotive middlemen are scared shitless that their monopoly is about to disappear.

They're serious enough that they're willing to obsolete the *entire* array of currently available and already purchased HDTV equipment because it doen't have a copy lock on it.

russotto 02-28-2002 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by MaggieL

They're serious enough that they're willing to obsolete the *entire* array of currently available and already purchased HDTV equipment because it doen't have a copy lock on it.

Only Neils Fergusen and others have already broken (conceptually) the leading copy protection scheme currently proposed, Intel's HDCP. And it's a "black box" crack -- that is, there's no need to examine device internals to execute it.

MaggieL 02-28-2002 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by russotto


Only Neils Fergusen and others have already broken (conceptually) the leading copy protection scheme currently proposed, Intel's HDCP. And it's a "black box" crack -- that is, there's no need to examine device internals to execute it.

The fact that copy protection schemes are all doomed to being cracked doesn't penetrate with these suits; they're all in to much denial for that. They need to believe that it makes sense to behave as if their "product" is a tangible thing that can sensibly be protected though "property rights".

We need new paradigms for dealing with new technology; these old skins will not hold our new wine.

russotto 03-01-2002 12:06 PM

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The only way we're going to get any new paradigms is when the holders of the old paradigms are dead. And unfortunately it looks like that won't happen until they've turned all our wine to vinegar.

I wish I had talent for foreign languages; I'd be looking for elsewhere. But all the English-speaking countries are on the same course.


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