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Spexxvet 08-31-2006 07:59 AM

Hazelton ans Riverside
 
Hazelton, PA and Riverside, NJ have recently enacted laws that penalize those who knowingly rent to or employ illegal immigrants. There has been uproar from the Latino community, claiming the laws are racially motivated, and suits have been filed charging that the laws are unconstitutional.

Are they?

The laws don't single out "Latino illegal immigrants" to my knowledge. If they included ALL lawbreakers (penalize knowingly renting to/employing a robber or murderer) the new laws certainly couldn't be viewed as discriminatory, could they?

Personnally, I think fewer illegals would come/stay here if there weren't jobs for them or places to live, and these types of laws would have a chilling effect on employers and landlords. I don't have a problem with foreigners wanting to be here, I just think if they want to be in America, they should become citizens and live up to all the obligations that come with citizenship.

wolf 08-31-2006 09:54 AM

Good for those towns. I'd love to see that in other communities.

9th Engineer 08-31-2006 10:53 AM

Is there a link to that? I'd just love to hear their argument that this is somehow racially motivated. I'm been needing a good laugh since class started...

Undertoad 08-31-2006 10:59 AM

Since rental property owners can't easily confirm whether someone is illegal, they'll just avoid making a problem for themselves by only renting to those "obviously from the area".

Spexxvet 08-31-2006 11:35 AM

Links:

http://www.prldef.org/Civil/Hazelton...0immigrants%22

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082101484.html

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jh...rc=rss/topNews

Flint 08-31-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
"obviously from the area"

Reminds me of: "they ran like foreigners"...

Happy Monkey 08-31-2006 12:09 PM

What sort of ID is currently required when renting? Is it something that can prove legal residency? If not, will a landlord be asking for additional paperwork if a person 'seems illegal'?

Spexxvet 08-31-2006 12:11 PM

I, _________________, swear that I am a legal resident of the USA.:rolleyes:

headsplice 08-31-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf
Good for those towns. I'd love to see that in other communities.

So what would you have illegal immigrants do? Live outside and be homeless?

Flint 08-31-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headsplice
Live outside and be homeless?

Sure, "outside" the country !!! :stickpoke

headsplice 08-31-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
Sure, "outside" the country !!! :stickpoke

Who's gonna pick the fruit?

footfootfoot 08-31-2006 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
What sort of ID is currently required when renting? Is it something that can prove legal residency? If not, will a landlord be asking for additional paperwork if a person 'seems illegal'?

Quote:

Originally Posted by flint
Reminds me of: "they ran like foreigners"...

"OK, The rent's $550. a month, first and last and a security deposit. You pay for all utilities and trash removal. Just sign the lease here and here, and could you just run down to the end of the block and back?

'Preciate it. Thanks."

Flint 08-31-2006 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot
...Just sign the lease here and here, and could you just run down to the end of the block and back?...

:::actually laughed out loud:::

9th Engineer 08-31-2006 07:09 PM

Quote:

Who's gonna pick the fruit?
Simple, currently unemployed Americans. If we went one step furthing and started cutting benefits to the able-bodied unemployed (those who do not have a medically documented dehabilitating condition) you'd be amazed how many people come out of the woodwork.

9th Engineer 08-31-2006 07:11 PM

Employers will raise wages to attract workers if the alternative is having their crop rot in the field, they'll just put up a royal bitch-fest about it.


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