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Spexxvet 10-06-2006 01:40 PM

What would a viable third party look like?
 
Moderates, or "swing-voters" need their own party. What would the party planks look like for such a party? What would the position be for issues like:

Foreign Policy
Individual freedoms
Taxation
Abortion
Same-gender marriage
Welfare
States' right vs federal rights

And others?

glatt 10-06-2006 01:43 PM

This should be interesting.

I think swing voters are even more diverse than liberals, and I bet they would have a hard time coming up with a platform.

I'll throw a couple out though. Fiscal responsibility. Smaller government. Civil rights. Separation of church and state.

Griff 10-06-2006 02:13 PM

Foreign Policy- isolationist

Individual freedoms-keep your hands off my

Taxation- low but balance the budget

Abortion- none of my business

Samesex marriage-groovy/in the eyes of the government its just a contract

Welfare- none for corporations, regular folks safety net but if you screw the pooch you are gonna get cut loose.

States' right vs federal rights- move the power down toward the peeps. No unfunded mandates.

A viable third party would take control locally first, county governments on down, to prove they can do the job.

Happy Monkey 10-06-2006 02:44 PM

No platform. Just an organization to help fund independent candidates. I don't know how this would work, if at all, but it would be interesting.

Flint 10-06-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
No platform. Just an organization to help fund independent candidates.

Now that is one hell of a good idea. Remove the "party" aspect altogether.

Radar 10-07-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet
Moderates, or "swing-voters" need their own party. What would the party planks look like for such a party? What would the position be for issues like:

Foreign Policy
Individual freedoms
Taxation
Abortion
Same-gender marriage
Welfare
States' right vs federal rights

And others?


A viable third-party would look like the viable third-party we already have in the Libertarian Party.

Ibby 10-07-2006 08:43 PM

They said viable.

MaggieL 10-07-2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar
A viable third-party would look like the viable third-party we already have in the Libertarian Party.

But bigger, and not as goofy-looking.

Radar 10-09-2006 05:49 PM

The Libertarian Party IS viable and extremely electable with the best candidates in politics. It's the largest third party in America. It has more people elected than all other third-parties combined.

marichiko 10-09-2006 06:34 PM

Foreign Policy - Keep our paws off of other nations' affairs except in the case of an actual declaration of war by an actual nation.

Individual freedoms - Bring them back

Taxation - Quit squandering money on boondoggles, stupid foreign wars and awarding govt contracts to companies with insider connections with the Feds. That should allow us to balance the budget for once.

Abortion - A matter of individual conscience

Same-gender marriage - Should be the same as opposite gender marriage

Welfare - No more welfare for corporations. Make it available for those in need of help, but also provide training and education that will allow people to become self supporting again.

States' right vs federal rights - States' rights should supersede federal rights with each state upholding the Constitution. I would like to see the country move a little closer to being a federation of states with less power concentrated in Washington. The Federal government has become too corrupt (I know even local governments can be corrupt, but its a lot easier to weed out corruption on a state or local level than it is a national one).

MaggieL 10-09-2006 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar
The Libertarian Party IS viable and extremely electable...

And yet so few of them are elected.

tw 10-09-2006 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar
The Libertarian Party IS viable and extremely electable with the best candidates in politics. It's the largest third party in America. It has more people elected than all other third-parties combined.

Third party is in a system designed by two big parties so that only those parties are favored. Even gerrymandering has even made a third party implausible.

To better appreciate how a third party can occur, compare details of the British political system verses American. For example, British system does not permit unrestricted spending. Therefore contributions to a third party - that at first glance would appear to be a loser - could actually get a winning message out.

Two parties have conspired to fix the system in their favor. Therefore when Ross Perot won so many votes, it scared the hell out of party power brokers who did not understand this concept: 'working for America'.

The American political system is chock full of details that make it so difficult for third parties.

richlevy 10-28-2006 09:11 PM

Weldon 'sort of' declares himself an independent
 
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Not really, but I did do a doubletake when I saw this billboard with "Independent Fighter for US". It seems Mr. Weldon is joining the RINO party (Republican in Name Only). Maybe he and the rest of the moderates in Congress should replace the elephant with an actual Rhino as a mascot.

Let's not forget about the jobs, jobs, and more jobs.

Of course, there's always the chance he could follow Jim Jeffords and actually become an independent.

Spexxvet 11-01-2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richlevy
Not really, but I did do a doubletake when I saw this billboard with "Independent Fighter for US". It seems Mr. Weldon is joining the RINO party (Republican in Name Only). Maybe he and the rest of the moderates in Congress should replace the elephant with an actual Rhino as a mascot.

Let's not forget about the jobs, jobs, and more jobs.

Of course, there's always the chance he could follow Jim Jeffords and actually become an independent.

repubicans are funny, and not in the ha ha way. Their party position is less government spending and lower taxes, but when they want to get re-elected, they crow about how much money they bring to their constituency. I guess people who vote repubican don't wonder where that money comes from.

Happy Monkey 11-01-2006 05:01 PM

They know where it comes from - blue states.


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