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rkzenrage 10-20-2006 01:13 PM

Intolerance.
 
I'm becoming very intolerant of bullshit.
I'm at a place in my life and practice (Buddhism) where I have little patience for those who choose to be ignorant.
BTW, do not tell me that any action is not a choice, tis not so. Is medically impossible unless you are clinically insane (in that case you should not be in society) or being held down and physically forced to act.

Aliantha 10-21-2006 02:05 AM

Ummm...isn't being an intolerant budhist an oxymoron?

wolf 10-21-2006 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage
I'm at a place in my life and practice (Buddhism) where I have little patience for those who choose to be ignorant.

If that is so, grasshopper, you are not practicing enough, or alternatively, you are practicing wrong.

footfootfoot 10-21-2006 09:19 PM

I'm hearing the pain talking and not
rkz...

footfootfoot 10-21-2006 09:22 PM

Remember "I can't stand intolerant people"?

jinx 10-21-2006 09:33 PM

What "actions" are we talking about here?
I associate intolerance with religions - all of them. One you get past "do unto others" you're entering private club territory, usually accompanied by a "if you're not with us, you're against us (and something is wrong with you)" attitude. I have become very intolerant of all of that bullshit myself.

rkzenrage 10-22-2006 12:06 AM

I think all of you are reading intolerant in a very different way than I am meaning it.
In Zen letting people continue a delusion is not helping them... it is a harm by omission.
It is very weird and leads to people becoming extremely confrontational when you did not mean your comment that way at all.

Aliantha 10-22-2006 12:30 AM

Well, I can't argue budhism to any great degree, but it has been my understanding from what little I do know that the basic tennet of budhism is to live and let live.

Aliantha 10-22-2006 12:32 AM

And that people are here to learn specific lessons they've chosen for themselves, and that if they don't get it right, they'll be back again whether they like it or not. So, it's not up to any other human body to be intolerant of anyone else's actions because you're here on your own journey, not someone else's.

wolf 10-22-2006 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
In Zen letting people continue a delusion is not helping them... it is a harm by omission.

You, personally, are not the arbiter of reality and illusion. Question, rather, why you need to be.

skysidhe 10-22-2006 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage
I'm becoming very intolerant of bullshit.
I'm at a place in my life and practice (Buddhism) where I have little patience for those who choose to be ignorant.
BTW, do not tell me that any action is not a choice, tis not so. Is medically impossible unless you are clinically insane (in that case you should not be in society) or being held down and physically forced to act.


I am intolerant of bullshit but I am not a Buddist. I do believe in Karma somehwhat but say ' to hell with karma today' I need to vent.


People are all at different stages. I think to release people to their own realities and the karma they have for themselves would be a very zen thing to do. I think wolfs statement is right.We not the arbiter of reality and illusion. I have fought with that myself. I wrestled with the delusions of others and burnt out my thyroid. I fight doing it still. I don't know what delusions specifically you speak of but wolf's advice is good. To question ourself as to why we have to be in control is very valid.

I say we and our because you are not alone in seeking balance and letting go. I'll be practicing that as well.

rkzenrage 10-23-2006 11:27 PM

Karma is not about this lifetime... the law of karma is what you do in this lifetime affects what happens to you in the next. It is about reincarnation, not immediate justice.

Ibby 10-23-2006 11:49 PM

Its also a logical thing, as is all of Buddhism. If you do something bad, the world gets that much worse, and if the world is worse then worse things are more likely to happen.

Beestie 10-23-2006 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage
In Zen letting people continue a delusion is not helping them... it is a harm by omission.

Zen seeks not to smack the unZen upside they's head.

Stormieweather 10-24-2006 08:20 AM

I think there is a fine line between speaking up about your beliefs and perceived injustices and becoming intolerant and judgemental.

Stormie


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