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Flint 11-01-2006 03:16 PM

Big Band is the Hair Metal of Yesteryear
 
Big, brash, flashy sounds. Overly formulaic, with a cheesy dependence on impact, as opposed to nuance.

Attention to programmers of Sirius music channels: Big Band, Small Band, and Vocal Jazz should be minimum requirements for seperate
categories
of jazz. Having one "Classic Jazz" (whatever that means) channel and stuffing all three into it really defeats the purpose.

(And btw: "Smooth Jazz" is not jazz...)

Pangloss62 11-01-2006 05:55 PM

Jazz
 
I concur with you Flint.

And it reminds me of a line a respected DJ friend of mine once said to someone who did not know what was meant by "Smooth Jazz." He leaned over and said:

"Yeah. Smooth, like diarhea."

Ibby 11-01-2006 07:28 PM

Watch it, bub, don't diss hair metal...

Flint 11-01-2006 07:34 PM

Oh, I love Hair Metal. For having vastly different qualities than I want when I listen to jazz.

footfootfoot 11-01-2006 07:36 PM

I love big band, smoth jizz, err jazz blows. And chic corea really bites.

Ibby 11-01-2006 07:38 PM

!
Chic Corea rocks, especially with Wooten.

Flint 11-01-2006 07:41 PM

I love Chick Corea, all the way from Return to Forever to Elektric Band.

WabUfvot5 11-01-2006 09:07 PM

RATT > Glenn Miller

Ibby 11-01-2006 09:14 PM

ah, but Skid Row, GnR, and Whitesnake > Ratt

WabUfvot5 11-02-2006 04:31 AM

Whitesnake? Are you serious? They were hardly hair but for a breif period. GNR I can go with. Skid Row had bigger hits but for overall quality I still say GNR > RATT (only barely) > Skid Row > Whitesnake.

Ibby 11-02-2006 06:12 AM

Psh, Whitesnake had Vai, which gives them major points, and so I'd say... Skid Row (I love Bach), GnR, Whitesnake, Ratt.

Pangloss62 11-02-2006 05:26 PM

Nuance
 
Quote:

Big, brash, flashy sounds. Overly formulaic, with a cheesy dependence on impact, as opposed to nuance.
I orginally concured, but I think that there are SOME big bands that do nuance fairly well. Stan Kenton comes to mind.

Big Band music is mostly dance music, so maybe disco, rather than Hair Metal, is a good analogy.

Chic Corea? Well, not my cup of tea. I went through a fusion phase however, and in retrospect I remember liking it; not now, however.

But Flint's point regarding "Classic Jazz" is so true. My All Music Guide to Jazz, which I respect after using it for a year or so, lists over 75 sub-genres of Jazz.

Nonetheless, just for fun, I ask all of you, if limited to one, what would be the one "Jazz" album (of any genre) you would bring to your island?

wolf 11-02-2006 05:36 PM

Time Out - Dave Brubeck Quartet ... no wait ... Benny Goodman ... no ... Django Reinhardt

Can't be done. Not just one Jazz Album. Has to be at least five, possibly 10.

Does a five CD compilation set count as one album? I might be able to cut it down to that ...

Pangloss62 11-02-2006 05:46 PM

Can't be done, but...
 
Quote:

Can't be done.
I know, but it's just an experiment, a way to create a Cellar Jazz Compilation CD. I'll start.

Meet The Jazztet (1958?) Argo LP 664

Art Farmer-Trumpet
Benny Golson - Sax
Curtis Fuller-Trombone
McCoy Tyner - Piano
Addison Farmer - Bass
Lex Humphries - Drums

A classic.

Flint 11-02-2006 06:24 PM

Miles Davis - In a Silent Way

Miles Davis... Trumpet
Wayne Shorter... Soprano, Tenor Sax
Joe Zawinul... Organ, Electric Piano
Chick Corea... Electric Piano
Herbie Hancock... Electric Piano
John McLaughlin... Guitar
Dave Holland... Bass
Tony Williams... Drums


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