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Kitsune 12-13-2006 11:05 AM

Soy Warning: It gives you The Gay.
 
Ah, soy! Full of protein and essential amino acids! It reduces the risk of some cancers and even helps fight MS. The only downside? It gives you The Gay.

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Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because "I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual." No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them.

Flint 12-13-2006 11:22 AM

???
 
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today's rise in homosexuality
Oh...is there one? That's a big assumption to toss out so casually.

Sundae 12-13-2006 11:27 AM

Soy is the work of the Devil. I can see that - in China they had to pay their huge gay population to start reproducing because their population was so dangerously low....

Oops - they thought about that:
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P.S.: Soy sauce is fine. Unlike soy milk, it's perfectly safe because it's fermented, which changes its molecular structure.
I find this part especially interesting:
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If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal.
Eh? It's far worse for a boy to reach puberty later than it is for a girl to start menstruating at 7? Not in my book, chummy. After all, if he's going to be a gay anyway he's got to wait around for sex to be legal.

Anyway, as we now know teh gay has a biological cause, is it still a sin?

Bullitt 12-13-2006 11:37 AM

@ the article
you have got to be kidding me...

@ Sundae
the traditional Christian would probably argue that the biological condition exists because of sin in the world. It shouldn't exist but it does and no amount of saying it is 100% choice or what you friggin eat will change that.
I would say that when you step back it doesn't matter if it is a sin or not. We're all f'ed up and full of it and there's no point in picking on other people's flaws to bring them down. Then stand on their head while you yourself are no better a person than they.

bbro 12-13-2006 02:00 PM

SG - Don't forget - tofu is made of soybean surd, too. And Edamame is just soybeans. (Don't know if that is Chinese or Japanese)

chrisinhouston 12-13-2006 03:35 PM

Wow, news from WorldNetDaily, I usually go there after Rush Limbaugh in the afternoon and Bill O'Reilly on Fox every night! :rolleyes:

rkzenrage 12-13-2006 03:37 PM

Every good birth/early childhood book I read stated it was best to limit the soy milk given until your child was five.
This is very old news.
However, hormones have nothing to do with sexual orientation, that is pure ignorance.

Happy Monkey 12-13-2006 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
However, hormones have nothing to do with sexual orientation, that is pure ignorance.

Huh? I thought that the cause was as yet unknown. Have hormones been ruled out as even a minor factor?

rkzenrage 12-13-2006 04:10 PM

Every study I have seen or read that seems to show any promise is rooted in brain make-up... some say that is rooted in genetics.
I was born with very low testosterone and it never affected my attraction to women. Though I am very open to the fact that men can be attractive, I have never wanted to have a relationship with one and always only wanted women and that has been consistent throughout my life. I am more "sensitive" in a lot of ways than many men... but I think that has more to do with being raised away from society than my hormone level.
I have never seen a study that even mentioned hormone levels as a factor, and this is a pet project of mine.

Clodfobble 12-13-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
I have never seen a study that even mentioned hormone levels as a factor, and this is a pet project of mine.

What about the big study awhile back that showed that men with older brothers from the same mother were more likely to be gay, regardless of whether they were raised with those brothers or not? The theory behind those results was it had to do with the hormone levels of the mother during pregnancy.

rkzenrage 12-14-2006 12:42 AM

I remember that, but nothing about the son's hormone level. Her level could affect his brain I'm sure. I could be wrong, I just think I would remember anything about hormone levels.

Ibby 12-14-2006 06:03 AM

Ew. I hate soy.


I call TOTAL bullshit.

Sundae 12-14-2006 07:07 AM

I can't access the whole article as I don't subscribe, but the abstract is here

By Anthony F Bogaert (emphasis mine)

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The most consistent biodemographic correlate of sexual orientation in men is the number of older brothers (fraternal birth order). The mechanism underlying this effect remains unknown. In this article, I provide a direct test pitting prenatal against postnatal (e.g., social/rearing) mechanisms. Four samples of homosexual and heterosexual men (total n = 944), including one sample of men raised in nonbiological and blended families (e.g., raised with half- or step-siblings or as adoptees) were studied. Only biological older brothers, and not any other sibling characteristic, including nonbiological older brothers, predicted men’s sexual orientation, regardless of the amount of time reared with these siblings. These results strongly suggest a prenatal origin to the fraternal birth-order effect.
I don't think his study suggests or rules out hormones one way or anoter, but that's an assumption.

rkzenrage 12-14-2006 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram
Ew. I hate soy.


I call TOTAL bullshit.

I did too, even when I was vegan, until I tried Silk brand... still love it.

Kitsune 12-14-2006 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram
Ew. I hate soy.

You love it, you just don't know it. If you eat processed food, there is a very high chance you're eating soy. The stuff is as widespread as high fructose corn syrup.


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