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Aliantha 02-11-2007 01:54 AM

David Hicks to be brought home?
 
After 5 years in Gitmo, it seems the Australian government is finally going to stand up to the US over their failure to charge David Hicks with any crime.

It's about time Howard finally grew some balls and voiced the opinion most of us have held for years now over this issue; that unless the US intends to formally charge the man with a crime, he should be brought home.

xoxoxoBruce 02-11-2007 04:28 PM

They should have charged him or killed him long ago. :cool:

DanaC 02-11-2007 05:06 PM

Yup. Trust me the English are none too pleased at the fact a number of our citizens were held without charge for years in Gitmo.

Aliantha 02-11-2007 10:42 PM

Well if they were going to charge him then yes they should have.

I don't know if he's innocent or guilty, but the lack of action is inexcusible. Anyway, it looks like they're charging him now. The death penalty is not an option and he will be serving his sentance in Australia, if he's found guilty.

Beestie 02-12-2007 03:42 AM

So after five years, the United States Government is finally going to charge the man for a crime.

Let it therefore be decreed that the process of manufacturing evidence does not, in fact, follow Moore's Law.

xoxoxoBruce 02-12-2007 04:04 AM

He'll be able to tell his grandchildren he was successful. He went looking for trouble and found it. :smack:

Sun_Sparkz 02-12-2007 04:06 AM

how could you not know what you were training for for gods sake. nice people just dont get caught up in that shit. dont bring him back here.

tw 02-12-2007 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun_Sparkz (Post 314889)
how could you not know what you were training for for gods sake. nice people just dont get caught up in that shit. dont bring him back here.

It's called mercenary training. Private military personal are trained all over the world every day. Young kids are easily recruited for mercenary or private armies with the expectation of adventure - ie the Spanish Civil War and the Abraham Lincoln brigade. Why is his situation any different?

Undertoad 02-13-2007 09:00 AM

Young kids are easily recruited for mercentary or private armies with the expectation of adventure - ie the Crips and the Bloods and LA gang warfare. Why is his situation any different?

Flint 02-13-2007 09:04 AM

Young kids are easily recruited for mercentary or private armies with the expectation of adventure - ie the Quicky Mart is really . . . d'oh!

Aliantha 02-13-2007 06:28 PM

There's some good points here. I hope they move along with the process for Hicks, however it seems they may take up to a year more to bring him to trial, even if the charges are to be laid imminently.

Hagar 02-16-2007 01:31 AM

5 years without trial is out of order, no matter what he's done. There's no doubt he's an idiot, it needs to be determined just how dangerous an idiot he is.

The detailled allegations released today against Hicks are pretty scary, but the inaction from the government is terrifying.

I knew a couple of guys at school who could well have turned out like Hicks; gun nuts, joined the Army Cadets as soon as they were able and talked about going shooting on the weekends, they thought Tour of Duty was the best thing on TV...

tw 02-16-2007 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hagar (Post 316251)
There's no doubt he's an idiot, it needs to be determined just how dangerous an idiot he is.

UT has benchmarked him:
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ie the Crips and the Bloods and LA gang warfare.
So was he a really dangerous gang member or just another street hustler? Five years, prison, torture, and they still don't know. Welcome to what happens when people like Urbane Guerrilla come to power. UG even calls himself a libertarian - like George Jr would sacrifice his legacy for America.

Kingswood 02-27-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 314693)
After 5 years in Gitmo, it seems the Australian government is finally going to stand up to the US over their failure to charge David Hicks with any crime.

It's about time Howard finally grew some balls and voiced the opinion most of us have held for years now over this issue; that unless the US intends to formally charge the man with a crime, he should be brought home.

Well of course something is going to happen. It's an election year in Oz. You can be damn sure Howard doesn't want that sort of issue to be still on the agenda when he goes to an election that he will find difficult to win as it is.

Aliantha 03-01-2007 12:12 AM

Surely the average voter is not going to give Howard kudos for this regardless of whether he actually does something or not.

Aren't they going to say, it's about fucking time???

My point is, if a voter is going to swing for just one issue, I'd say they've already swung the other way thanks to Mr Rudd not doing anything wrong, which is really all he has to keep doing.


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