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TheMercenary 03-09-2007 08:02 PM

Appeals Court Overturns D.C. Gun Ban
 
By BRETT ZONGKER Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal appeals court overturned the District of Columbia's long- standing handgun ban Friday, rejecting the city's argument that the Second Amendment right to bear arms applied only to militias.
In a 2-1 decision, the judges held that the activities protected by the Second Amendment "are not limited to militia service, nor is an individual's enjoyment of the right contingent" on enrollment in a militia.

The ban on owning handguns went into effect in 1976.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit also threw out the district's requirement that registered firearms be kept unloaded, disassembled and under trigger lock.

In 2004, a lower-court judge told six city residents that they did not have a constitutional right to own handguns. The plaintiffs include residents of high-crime neighborhoods who wanted the guns for protection.

"The district's definition of the militia is just too narrow," Judge Laurence Silberman wrote for the majority Friday. "There are too many instances of 'bear arms' indicating private use to conclude that the drafters intended only a military sense."

Judge Karen Henderson dissented, writing that the Second Amendment does not apply to the District of Columbia because it is not a state.

The Bush administration has endorsed individual gun-ownership rights, but the Supreme Court has never settled the issue.

"I think this is well positioned for review of the Supreme Court," said Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law professor at George Washington University. He said the D.C. circuit is historically influential with the Supreme Court because it often deals with constitutional questions.

"You also have a very well-reasoned opinion, both in the majority and the dissent," Turley said.

If the dispute makes it to the high court, it would be the first case in nearly 70 years to address the Second Amendment's scope.

Silberman wrote that the Second Amendment is still "subject to the same sort of reasonable restrictions that have been recognized as limiting, for instance, the First Amendment."

Such restrictions might include gun registration, firearms testing to promote public safety or restrictions on gun ownership for criminals or those deemed mentally ill.

Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, said the decision gives the district "a crack in the door to join the rest of the country in full constitutional freedom."

A spokeswoman for the district attorney general's office declined to comment on the ruling.

bluecuracao 03-09-2007 08:10 PM

Could statehood be next? :rolleyes:

TheMercenary 03-09-2007 08:16 PM

I don't know about statehood but they sure need to give them a voting voice in Congress. There is a butt load of people who live there that are not represented, and last I checked they are still paying taxes. Taxation without representation?

Happy Monkey 03-09-2007 08:18 PM

That's what my license plates say.

Beestie 03-09-2007 08:24 PM

Well I guess HM and I will find out which one of us was/is right about the relationship between gun ownership rights and gun crime.

I wonder if New York is next.

Beestie 03-09-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 321920)
That's what my license plates say.

In light of the recent court decision perhaps DC can consider changing the plate slogan to: Now enjoying 85% of the Constitutional Rights enjoyed by the other 50 states. But cross out the 85 and handwrite in 100.

Happy Monkey 03-09-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 321922)
Well I guess HM and I will find out which one of us was/is right about the relationship between gun ownership rights and gun crime.

I wonder if New York is next.

Well, the biggest segment of "gun crime" will go way down- "possession".
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Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 321926)
In light of the recent court decision perhaps DC can consider changing the plate slogan to: Now enjoying 85% of the Constitutional Rights enjoyed by the other 50 states. But cross out the 85 and handwrite in 100.

No, there'll still be taxation without representation.

bluecuracao 03-09-2007 08:47 PM

Yup, I think there are a quite a few otherwise law-abiding citizens in DC who already own guns, so maybe it won't make a difference. But the other thing to consider is that DC has a disproportionate number of stressed-out assholes, who may not yet own guns. This could be exciting.

Beestie 03-09-2007 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 321929)
Well, the biggest segment of "gun crime" will go way down- "possession".No, there'll still be taxation without representation.

So was having the right of gun ownership withheld one of the problems of taxation without representation or one of the benefits?

monster 03-09-2007 09:03 PM

(aliens are taxed but not allowed to vote)

TheMercenary 03-09-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 321940)
(aliens are taxed but not allowed to vote)

I have no problem with that. They should double tax them.

TheMercenary 03-09-2007 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 321922)
Well I guess HM and I will find out which one of us was/is right about the relationship between gun ownership rights and gun crime.

I wonder if New York is next.

Oh please enlighten me. I am a gun owner and have a CCW permit for my state.

Beestie 03-09-2007 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 321947)
Oh please enlighten me. I am a gun owner and have a CCW permit for my state.

Enlighten you with respect to what?

bluecuracao 03-09-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 321945)
I have no problem with that. They should double tax them.

Sure. They will need the dough to pay you to do...something, Monsieur Mercenary. :lol:

Happy Monkey 03-09-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 321936)
So was having the right of gun ownership withheld one of the problems of taxation without representation or one of the benefits?

Neither. Unrelated issues.


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