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TheMercenary 04-08-2007 09:39 AM

More PC actions
 
I hope this is not a real event but for some reason I bet there is truth to it.:cool:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

elSicomoro 04-08-2007 09:52 AM

History is what it is...sometimes, the truth sucks.

TheMercenary 04-08-2007 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 331927)
History is what it is...sometimes, the truth sucks.

I see the same thing here in the US with attempts to re-write history and erase portions that are found "distasteful". It is a crime.

duck_duck 04-08-2007 09:57 AM

I'm happy hong kong is no longer a UK colony. It seems the british just want to lay down and die. They will not stand up for anything or for themselves anymore :sniff:

TheMercenary 04-08-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by duck_duck (Post 331931)
I'm happy hong kong is no longer a UK colony. It seems the british just want to lay down and die. They will not stand up for anything or for themselves anymore :sniff:

I do believe they honorably held up to a lease that expired and the Chinese gov was not going to re-new. I would say that is a bit better than many attempts by many countries to colonize places that did not want outsiders. They just did there part in the bargain IMHO.

duck_duck 04-08-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 331936)
I do believe they honorably held up to a lease that expired and the Chinese gov was not going to re-new. I would say that is a bit better than many attempts by many countries to colonize places that did not want outsiders. They just did there part in the bargain IMHO.

You misunderstand me. I am happy the british left hong kong not because of a lease but because they are weak now. They will not stand up for themselves anymore so why would I expect them to stand up for hong kong if it were still british?

Kitsune 04-08-2007 10:15 AM

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The report said teachers feared confronting 'anti-Semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils'.
History is about confrontation, debate, and discussion.

This is bad. Really bad.

TheMercenary 04-08-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by duck_duck (Post 331942)
They will not stand up for themselves anymore so why would I expect them to stand up for hong kong if it were still british?

I bet they would stand up for themselves, although they would certainly be outmatched against all of China, as would any country today. I think they handled the Iran crisis fairly well.

King 04-08-2007 10:43 AM

This is only a standout case because of the reasons given. To choose what to teach because it might offend people of a certain religion is ridiculous. However, the actual action is not unusual; the only example given is a school choosing not to take the option of teaching the Crusades, and choosing not to do GCSE coursework on the Holocaust. There are optional elements to the History curriculum in Britain; unless somethings changed in the last few years, the Crusades are optional; a school can choose to study that or something else. The Holocaust has to be studied, and I'm sure it was at this school, but they just didn't choose to do coursework on it. That's not unusual; I did my GCSE coursework on Northern Ireland. It's not a case of the school ignoring the curriculum, but a case of a school making their choices for the wrong reason. I am almost certain that the Holocaust has to be studied at some point, unless that's changed in the last couple of years.

King 04-08-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by duck_duck (Post 331942)
You misunderstand me. I am happy the british left hong kong not because of a lease but because they are weak now. They will not stand up for themselves anymore so why would I expect them to stand up for hong kong if it were still british?

I'm pretty sure we would have if the people of Hong Kong wanted us to, although I guess it would have depended on the government at the time. We stood up for the Falkland Islanders.

deadbeater 04-08-2007 04:23 PM

Why wouldn't they talk about the Crusades in front of Muslim students? The Muslims ultimately won over the so-called Christians.

piercehawkeye45 04-08-2007 04:52 PM

It's a very conservative tabloid so I wouldn't get too worked up by what they publish. My guess is that they are making a mountain out of a molehill.

TheMercenary 04-08-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 332006)
It's a very conservative tabloid so I wouldn't get too worked up by what they publish. My guess is that they are making a mountain out of a molehill.

I would say the same about the LA Times or any of the tripe they report.

Trilby 04-08-2007 05:24 PM

Part of Cal Thomas' take on the spinelessness of this example:
What Europe seems to believe is that if they are nice to others, it follows that others will be nice to them.

Cal Thomas:

Everywhere one looks in Europe there are signs that free people are prepared to surrender without a fight to those who would place them in bondage.

In England, a new government-backed study has found that British schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons. Teachers are afraid to teach about the Nazi atrocity because Muslim students might take offense.

The study also discovered resistance by teachers to cover the 11th-century Crusades, when Christians fought Muslims for control of Jerusalem, because the lessons contradict what Muslim students are taught in mosques. The sacrifice of truth in favor of propaganda for fear of violence is the first step on the road to enslavement.

Trilby 04-08-2007 05:30 PM

More from Thomas:

All of this is appeasement in the extreme. In post-Christian, and in many cases anti-Christian Europe, (don't look for reprints of the Bible or an accurate newspaper story about the Resurrection of Jesus at Easter), nations that have allowed the immigration of large numbers of Muslims have failed to deal with the radicals among them. The radicals have deliberately refused to be "westernized," or assimilated, and Europe is now trying appeasement in hopes of pacifying people whose goal is not getting along, but obliterating them and their way of life.


All of this — with surely more on the way — comes from the flawed Western point of view that others will be nice to us if we are nice to them. Were this true, the prisons would be empty and there would be no need for burglar alarms and firearms to protect us from criminals. Evil exists and must be defeated, or evil will triumph.


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