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Griff 04-27-2007 09:42 AM

Banning Abortion and Guns in Free Palestine
 
*backs slowly out of saloon*

Spexxvet 04-27-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 338112)
*backs slowly out of saloon*

As an athiest, born and bred outside of the middle east, I have the innate right to shoot pregnant women and aborted fetuses with any weapon I choose, including a fully automatic tactical nukuler device launcher. I hope you conservatives aren't too stupid or foolish to understand what I've plainly and factually sed tu yu, you cunts.

Did I cover everything?

piercehawkeye45 04-27-2007 11:58 AM

I am pro-choice but usually anti-abortion and I am pro-one-state solution and an anti-Zionist but not anti-semetic.

Lets go, change me if you can.

rkzenrage 04-27-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 338163)
I am pro-choice but usually anti-abortion and I am pro-one-state solution and an anti-Zionist but not anti-semetic.

Lets go, change me if you can.

That.

Cloud 04-27-2007 02:44 PM

what, without even a drink at the ol' watering hole?

:)

wolf 04-27-2007 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 338117)
As an athiest, born and bred outside of the middle east, I have the innate right to shoot pregnant women and aborted fetuses with any weapon I choose, including a fully automatic tactical nukuler device launcher. I hope you conservatives aren't too stupid or foolish to understand what I've plainly and factually sed tu yu, you cunts.

Did I cover everything?

You missed the obligatory mention of Hitler, but other than that, yeah, I think you covered it, you liberal weenie.

tw 04-27-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 338293)
You missed the obligatory mention of Hitler, but other than that, yeah, I think you covered it, you liberal weenie.

The irony of Nazi Germany: people who supported Hitler thought themselves just as moral as Americans today who promote fear of mythical enemies, need for more weapons, let others be massacred (ie in schools) and do nothing, justify their actions with reasoning such as the world does not understand us and we must save them, disparage the intelligent (centrists), justify everything using a political agenda (see posts from TheMercenary for similar propaganda examples), suspend constitutional provisions that would only interfere with their political agenda, drive science from the country, subvert the judiciary, and even justify acts such as torture, secret imprisonment, and hatred of 'inferiors'.

All this was ongoing in 1930s Germany as it is today. No one in Germany considered it a threat. This deja vue attitude of murder in VA, contempt for the American soldier justified by nationalism, a righteous demand that Peter Jennings wear an American flag on his jacket and obtain American citizenship, and acceptance attitude towards torture; these were the same early 1930s attitudes in Germany by a people who also considered themselves so moral and good. By a people who did not even question when their leader "Pearl Harbored" other sovereign nations - even praised him for doing so.

What is the largest immigrant composition of America? Germans. And yet somehow Nazism cannot happen in America. "Where are your papers?" Same law to be imposed on all Americans complete with a required redesign of state driver's licenses so that everyone will have and must carry "papers".

Parallels do exist between today's extremist Republicans and early 1930s Nazis. Complete with both people insisting they are the righteous and superior ones.

rkzenrage 04-27-2007 05:41 PM

Exactly... refuse to carry a national ID card. Stay armed, learn to shoot (especially at distance and from cover) and buy reloading supplies.

xoxoxoBruce 04-27-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 338323)
snip~ let others be massacred (ie in schools) and do nothing, ~snip~ This deja vue attitude of murder in VA,

You mentioned this several times, IIRC you said America's reaction was a yawn.

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
What are you doing besides accusing everyone else of doing nothing?

tw 04-27-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 338366)
You mentioned this several times, IIRC you said America's reaction was a yawn.

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?

Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Why, Bruce, do you want step two without first doing step one? Well MBAs play that game routinely.

Offering solutions is rather useless here considering the many who assume if everyone had a gun, then crime would disappear – in direct contradiction to fact and history. Considering the many who assume the most violent western nation is not at all violent. Kill off kids in school, do some silly mourning ritual, deny a problem exists, and then do nothing. What is the count? Same four act play repeated 44 times now in America? A situation worthy of ridicule because the problem starts with denial. Denial of reality. Denial that bereavement is only an act.

Identifying a solution is far from relevant since and apparently xoxoxoBruce feels schoolyard massacres are situation normal (also called SNAFU).

xoxoxoBruce 04-28-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 338394)
Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Why, Bruce, do you want step two without first doing step one? Well MBAs play that game routinely.

I didn't say I wanted to do anything of the sort and you know it. I asked what you expected the general population to do about it.
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Offering solutions is rather useless here considering the many who assume if everyone had a gun, then crime would disappear – in direct contradiction to fact and history.
You lying motherfucker, I'll give you $1,000 to back that statement up. Nobody ever said that on this board.
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Considering the many who assume the most violent western nation is not at all violent. Kill off kids in school, do some silly mourning ritual, deny a problem exists, and then do nothing. What is the count? Same four act play repeated 44 times now in America? A situation worthy of ridicule because the problem starts with denial. Denial of reality. Denial that bereavement is only an act.
Why don't you just come out and admit you don't have an answer to my question, instead of blaming everyone else for preventing you from solving all the problems of the world?
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Identifying a solution is far from relevant since and apparently xoxoxoBruce feels schoolyard massacres are situation normal (also called SNAFU).
I'll give you another $1,000 to back that accusation up too, liar.
So, the bottom line is you don't have an answer to;
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What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
What are you doing besides accusing everyone else of doing nothing?

tw 04-28-2007 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 338695)
You lying motherfucker,

Bruce - take a pill. You have posted ten times consecutively - most posts containing nothing useful. Your are also posting only to argue; providing no new information; providing no new perspective.

Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Try limiting your post to one reality at a time. Britian had no problem. Explain why that reality is not so.

Only children restort to profanity. Your profane accusations are typical of adult children and are not relevant in a logical reply. Please tell us how the British did not do step one - then did not do step two. Somehow you completely ignored that most relevant point.

Do you only want to argue. Do you advocate more schoolyard massacres? Or did you run out of coffee?

jinx 04-28-2007 06:37 PM

tw, I would love to see some real answers to xoB's questions... actually, just this one
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What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
So... can you answer it?

TheMercenary 04-28-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 338785)
tw, I would love to see some real answers to xoB's questions... actually, just this one


So... can you answer it?

Give him some time to check the tin foil hat of his cat. The Cat in the Hat will tell him all. And than, and only than will he be able to answer you.... stay tuned.


http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7...oilhat2cy2.jpg

duck_duck 04-28-2007 08:47 PM

What is with the tin foil? it's the 21st century and aluminum foil works better.


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