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rkzenrage 06-08-2007 03:26 PM

The real Paris story
 
Some chick that none of them really know.
Just a misdemeanor case.
Why give a damn, really? All the hostility, it is so sad, misplaced and unnessary... so why?
There is one answer that truly covers all the bases.
Envy.

Cloud 06-08-2007 03:42 PM

I think that's the real United States of America story.

The real Paris story is in The Illiad.

:)

xoxoxoBruce 06-08-2007 04:10 PM

The hostility is at a justice system that plays favorites. When I see it locally it's hard to explain the frustration on the board. But here is a case other people are familiar with and are in a position to accurately judge whether my frustration is warranted.

freshnesschronic 06-08-2007 04:42 PM

I don't think she'll ever do the full 40 days. Money can do wonders.

Wonders.

xoxoxoBruce 06-08-2007 04:45 PM

Maybe, but that Judge is plenty pissed off.

Drax 06-11-2007 03:42 PM

Ya' know, I think the judge caved in to the public cuz they were the ones saying Paris got "preferential treatment." Come on, house arrest is not preferential treatment. It's a perfectly legal alternative to jail, and it's not total freedom either.

rkzenrage 06-11-2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 352559)
The hostility is at a justice system that plays favorites. When I see it locally it's hard to explain the frustration on the board. But here is a case other people are familiar with and are in a position to accurately judge whether my frustration is warranted.

Riiiiiiight, that is why there is so much coverage about all the white collar crime that get light sentences and off completely, real crime, not traffic court.
All that coverage and anger about the real injustice in our courts in the news... how do we get news about anything else?
LOL!!!

Sundae 06-11-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drax (Post 353579)
Ya' know, I think the judge caved in to the public cuz they were the ones saying Paris got "preferential treatment." Come on, house arrest is not preferential treatment. It's a perfectly legal alternative to jail, and it's not total freedom either.

In a case where the prisoner has been convicted for disregarding a previous sentence, and the indication is that this was a symptom of her lifestyle, I feel that house arrest is inappropriate.

For people who live in poverty, have little real freedom because of their income/ addictions/ dependants then prison is more about protecting society than punishing the prisoner.

For someone that lives in luxury, doesn't do their own cooking, cleaning or even look after their own pets, prison is a short, sharp, shock intended to make sure they realise they are not above the law. And it sends a real message to others in the same situation that the law will not be mocked. In a way that custodial sentences are unlikely to deter those at the bottom of the ladder.

Drax 06-11-2007 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 353587)
In a case where the prisoner has been convicted for disregarding a previous sentence, and the indication is that this was a symptom of her lifestyle, I feel that house arrest is inappropriate.

For people who live in poverty, have little real freedom because of their income/ addictions/ dependants then prison is more about protecting society than punishing the prisoner.

For someone that lives in luxury, doesn't do their own cooking, cleaning or even look after their own pets, prison is a short, sharp, shock intended to make sure they realise they are not above the law. And it sends a real message to others in the same situation that the law will not be mocked. In a way that custodial sentences are unlikely to deter those at the bottom of the ladder.

Ok, I grant that. I'm just wondering if the judge caved in to public pressure, or if the decision was really his.

Anyway, I truly hope a bit of jail time does her good.

The day she gets out, she should hire a driver.

Clodfobble 06-11-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SundaeGirl
prison is a short, sharp, shock

...from a cheap and chippy chopper on a big black block!!

Ahem. Pay no mind to the theatre geek.

smurfalicious 06-12-2007 08:51 AM

the judge has guidelines, set in place by law, for sentencing. it is up to the judge to use his/her discretion within those guidelines. many factors affect how a judge will sentence, including the public's response.

sure, envy may be a factor for some wanting to nail her ass to the wall, but, more importantly, she is still subject to the law, she knows the difference between right and wrong, and, for once, having a large bank account isn't going to exclude her from being subject to the same law as the rest of us non-privileged.

the fact of the matter is here is a grown -up spoiled little girl who believes she is above everyone and the law. she blatantly and repeatedly violated the law - without remorse or apology. criminals who lack remorse for what they've done get stiffer sentences. the judge recognized all this and sentenced her accordingly. she made her bed and now she must lie in it. (no pun.)

Shawnee123 06-12-2007 09:01 AM

great album
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 353587)
For someone that lives in luxury, doesn't do their own cooking, cleaning or even look after their own pets, prison is a short, sharp, shock intended to make sure they realise they are not above the law. And it sends a real message to others in the same situation that the law will not be mocked.


xoxoxoBruce 06-12-2007 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 353582)
Riiiiiiight, that is why there is so much coverage about all the white collar crime that get light sentences and off completely, real crime, not traffic court.
All that coverage and anger about the real injustice in our courts in the news... how do we get news about anything else?
LOL!!!

You're confusing the hostility for the system with the opportunily to express it. If people were presented with the cases you mention there would be the same disgust. I don't see any torches & pitchforks chasing her down the street, just flashbulbs.

Undertoad 06-12-2007 07:34 PM

(sidebar: "short sharp shock" is a British expression from way back. We USians take it as funny. I believe you can hear it on Dark Side of the Moon.)

glatt 06-12-2007 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 354305)
I believe you can hear it on Dark Side of the Moon.

That's where I know it from.


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