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Griff 07-13-2007 06:53 AM

Gordon Brown showing the way
 
So now I propose that in twelve areas important to our national life, the Prime Minister and executive should surrender or limit their powers - the exclusive exercise of which by the Government should have no place in a modern democracy.

These are:

the power of the executive to declare war;the power to request the dissolution of Parliament;
the power over recall of Parliament;
the power of the executive to ratify international treaties without decision by Parliament;
the power to make key public appointments without effective scrutiny;
the power to restrict Parliamentary oversight of the intelligence services;
power to choose bishops;
power in the appointment of judges;
power to direct prosecutors in individual criminal cases;
power over the civil service itself;
and the executive powers to determine the rules governing entitlement to passports and the granting of pardons.

We could use such restraints ourselves. Good luck Mr. Brown.

Undertoad 07-13-2007 09:00 AM

power to choose bishops;

Wait, what?

DanaC 07-13-2007 09:11 AM

Hehe. Ya didn't know that huh?

Undertoad 07-13-2007 09:30 AM

Nope, somehow that one escaped my attention. Is it just C of E?

DanaC 07-13-2007 09:44 AM

Yep. It's one of those intriguing constitutional hangovers from an earlier age.

Undertoad 07-13-2007 09:46 AM

Well, it's still weird, and it sounds like Mr Brown is taking the right first step.

DanaC 07-13-2007 10:50 AM

Absolutely. It's a bloody ridiculous right for a secular Prime minister to have.

Griff 07-13-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 363557)
Absolutely. It's a bloody ridiculous right for a secular Prime minister to have.

Try telling that to the Chinese!

DanaC 07-13-2007 11:19 AM

Good point.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-13-2007 12:06 PM

Well, it's definitely "hmmm"-worthy.

xoxoxoBruce 07-13-2007 04:57 PM

Lord Bush is green with envy.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-17-2007 04:07 AM

Why, Bruce, you sound like you're sure W. will be President-For-Life.

Too bad for that argument that we don't actually do things that way.

The conservatives understood this even while we groaned under Clinton's abuses.

DanaC 07-17-2007 06:11 PM

wtf?

xoxoxoBruce 07-17-2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 364800)
Why, Bruce, you sound like you're sure W. will be President-For-Life.

No, not at all... he's just worried about unquestioning obedience during his reign. He isn't worried about later... retired presidents live pretty well, you know.
Quote:

The conservatives understood this even while we groaned under Clinton's abuses.
You mean all conservatives had the hots for Monica?


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