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monster 10-02-2007 08:49 PM

Visiting Graves
 
I was reading on another forum (scab!) about leaving a stone on a gravestone when you visit (and the various reasons and religious significances behind it) and thought "well I've never visited a grave" -I thought you were supposed to take flowers, but I probably wouldn't have done. I reckon if I had a grave to visit, I'd take gardening tools and an old toothbrush in case it needed tidying up.

But in fact, all my dead relatives have been cremated, and I've never had the urge to visit the memorial plaques. It's just not my thing. But I know it brings great comfort to some.

So....

Do you visit graves/memorials?
What do you do there and why? (if it's not too personal/painful)

orthodoc 10-02-2007 08:55 PM

Yep. I do it as part of religious observance on certain dates - after Pascha (Orthodox 'Easter'), for example. And for personal reasons. And when I had the chance to go to Scotland, I looked up the church and graveyard in the little town my family comes from.

I've heard of leaving pebbles on a gravestone but have never done it. Do you (or anyone else) know what the practice means?

xoxoxoBruce 10-02-2007 09:42 PM

I visit Pop's grave every time I'm up home. I might pull some grass around, or clear the snow off, the stone. The family takes care of flowers, seasonally.

Aliantha 10-02-2007 09:49 PM

My family has a plot at one of the local cemetaries. I sometimes go there with the kids and talk about the relatives that are buried there and what they meant to me or others in the family. We usually take a broom and sweep off the leaves and dust. Sometimes we take a hose and some soap. My Dad usually goes once a year and repaints the trims and stuff.

It doesn't mean much to me to visit a grave site. I don't hold any real significance to dust and old bones, but from a historical aspect, I think it's interesting for the kids (and me).

Cloud 10-02-2007 09:58 PM

The only grave I'd visit (so far) would be my parents' graves, and they are buried in Kentucky, far, far away. If I had a chance to go there, I'd definitely visit. (Both parents died in Mexico and I attended their funerals, but much later they were re-buried in the States. Long story.)

I've never heard of leaving pebbles on the grave, though, that's interesting.

monster 10-02-2007 10:21 PM

most of the reasons people gve were for not leaving dead things (like cut flowers) there -stones are eternal

Crimson Ghost 10-02-2007 10:24 PM

I believe the pebbles are a Jewish custom.
A Jewish brother of my lodge passed, and his relatives places small stones on the gravestone.
I inquired of one of them the meaning at a later time, and was told that it meant "I remember you.", or something along those lines.
The movies "Schindler's List" and "Bullet" (with Mickey Rourke) both have this tradition.
Perhaps a cellarite who's more acquainted with Jewish tradition could explain it better........

steambender 10-02-2007 10:25 PM

Leaving small memorial stones is traditional for Jews. I have several generations of family on both sides in local cemeteries, and fathers parents are buried in the jewish section of the large and quite beautiful city cemetery. you can tell who gets regular family visits from the collection of small stones on the headstones. I collect interesting little stones when I travel, and try to remember to take them when I visit his grave. he's buried with my mother's family in a beautiful little country cemetery that goes back to before the civil war, and is a great place for summer picnics.

My eldest brother married into the jewish faith, and when he was buried in the national cemetery outside Dallas, I got one of the empty shell casings from the honor guard and put that on his headstone a year later. If I don't bring anything special, I'll look around and find a small stone. It's a remembrance.

Ibby 10-02-2007 10:32 PM

Oscar Wilde, Jim Morrison, both grandfathers, at least three of Robert Johnson's....

Urbane Guerrilla 10-03-2007 12:46 AM

As I understand this, it's symbolic of maintaining a cairn of rocks on a desert burial, where weathering and critters may derange, and is a tending of the gravesite. Performing this is accounted a mitzvah. Doing this for, or with, one's Jewish friends without making any big deal of it will show your suavity and culture.

lumberjim 10-03-2007 01:31 AM

At this point in my life, I've not lost anyone close enough to me that I would feel compelled to visit with. I wonder whether I will visit my parents' graves after they die....... I tend to be self involved and apathetic by nature.....At any rate, I hope it is a good long time until I find out.

Aliantha 10-03-2007 01:48 AM

If you're lucky it will be. Losing your parents can only be second to losing a child.

rkzenrage 10-03-2007 01:51 AM

Nope, this is a shell. The ego is a construct and illusion.
The only thing that lasts are memories and how they affect us.
I carry those with me.

TheMercenary 10-03-2007 05:52 AM

Graves and gravestones are for the living. I don't go. Lost a sister to breast Ca when she was 32. I have not been back to visit the grave. My dad died and he is in an urn in my moms closet. I don't visit her closet either. I just doesn't mean much to me. Our bodies are but a shell for our soul or lifeforce. When the body is done, that is it. Discard the shell and move on.

LabRat 10-03-2007 09:20 AM

My dad died 10 years ago, and his gravesite is in my hometown, a 60 min drive away. I have been to the gravesite maybe 8 or 10 times. When I go, it's when I feel like I need to go somewhere to cry in peace, to let it all out, without worry of someone interrupting me. I went more frequently after the fact, and actually think the last time was when I took my daughter there to show her where my dad was after another family death brought up the subject. Maybe 1.5-2 years ago?

On one of the first visits after the headstone was in place, I took a stone from around it, and carried it in my purse. Some time later, I put the stone in my jewlery box, and I think its still there.

I want to be cremated and scattered. My husband is against this, but I can't stand the idea of my body being preserved and put in a box to take up space until someone wants the land for something else. Since I don't want to deny him or my daughter of a place to do what I do at my dad's site, I likely will still purchase a lot, and have a headstone if I can, but just no body there. Maybe just scatter the ashes there...I haven't really thought that far. I just know I don't want my body in a frigging box.


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