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rkzenrage 10-16-2007 07:36 PM

Arnold is just a moron too...
 
http://greenoptions.com/2007/10/16/c...akota_moves_on

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Well, California’s "Fearless Fosdick" Governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger has again stifled any hope of bringing the industrial hemp industry to California and the United States. Unlike his more forward-thinking and courageous counterpart in North Dakota, Schwarzenegger bowed to the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and useless fears that industrial hemp will get you high, and vetoed Assembly Bill 684 which would have allowed a four-county, five-year pilot program of industrial hemp production in California.
It has nothing to do with "drug" use. Industrial hemp cannot be used as a drug... the two issues cannot, in ANY way, be compared.
The man is just a moron.

An acre of hemp makes 3 times the paper with a 5th the chemicals as wood.. you can get two crops a year. It takes 5 years to grow one acre of paper trees.
It would cut the land needed by so much that we could increase our virgin forests in ten years by more than one can almost imagine.
That is just wood... the same is similar for pollution for denim, cotton cloth, rope and many other products like oil and ethanol... oops perhaps now we know.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 07:41 PM

well if you want hemp clothes, you can buy them here. :)

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 08:04 PM

Arnold is actually doing quite well in Calif. You can't judge the man based on his policy over Hemp production. That is just stupid.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 08:28 PM

He connected industrial hemp to drugs... he is a moron.

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 395970)
He connected industrial hemp to drugs... he is a moron.

I think we, you, he is aware of the differences. The biggest problem has been that the plant looks EXACTLY the same as the illegal one. They are essentially the same plant and could easily be crossed, but I would bet the THC levels would be pretty low in the cross breed. Who knows, if they got the votes to get it to his desk maybe they have the votes for an override.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:35 PM

Paper, chemical and textile industry are who have ALWAYS fought, and spent millions to keep hemp, all forms, illegal since 1934, when Popular Mechanics announced a new machine that would make hemp the new #1 crop in the US, making the new wood pulp process outdated.
Dow and Kimberly Clark got to work the next day.
Jazz Niggers are going to smoke pot and rape your daughters!!!!!!
That is exactly how it happened.

Small farmers would make much more on growing textile hemp, and could, unlike paper trees. Think about it.

When it comes to pot for medical purposes, nothing helps muscle or nerve spams, nausea or loss of appetite as much as natural THC.
Marinol makes more people, about 60%, more ill instead of helping them.
Those who want it kept illegal and a class 1 drug want those like me to continue to suffer, not eat, and die earlier than we would with it.
A fact.

It is in NO WAY physically addictive, nor is is a gateway drug any more than tobacco is one for those who use meth or heroine (never seen or met a user who did not smoke first... go I guess tobacco is a gate-way drug to meth and heroine).

But, none of this matters... what matters is what HE knows, and if he knows industrial hemp is not able to get people high... and it is NOT... and still made the connection to pander to morons, then he is still a moron.

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 396028)
Paper, chemical and textile industry are who have ALWAYS fought, and spent millions to keep hemp, all forms, illegal since 1934, when Popular Mechanics announced a new machine that would make hemp the new #1 crop in the US, making the new wood pulp process outdated.
Dow and Kimberly Clark got to work the next day.
Jazz Niggers are going to smoke pot and rape your daughters!!!!!!
That is exactly how it happened.

Small farmers would make much more on growing textile hemp, and could, unlike paper trees. Think about it.

When it comes to pot for medical purposes, nothing helps muscle or nerve spams, nausea or loss of appetite as much as natural THC.
Marinol makes more people, about 60%, more ill instead of helping them.
Those who want it kept illegal and a class 1 drug want those like me to continue to suffer, not eat, and die earlier than we would with it.
A fact.

It is in NO WAY physically addictive, nor is is a gateway drug any more than tobacco is one for those who use meth or heroine (never seen or met a user who did not smoke first... go I guess tobacco is a gate-way drug to meth and heroine).

But, none of this matters... what matters is what HE knows, and if he knows industrial hemp is not able to get people high... and it is NOT... and still made the connection to pander to morons, then he is still a moron.

I don't disagree with you on your points, other than he is a moron. He is a politician, lower your expectations.

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 09:52 PM

I see your point... so sad... they should be the better of us, not the idiots.
The idea of a Republic.

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 396051)
I see your point... so sad... they should be the better of us, not the idiots.
The idea of a Republic.

The way our process works you would have to be an idiot to run for any major office. I have found after living in the South (for 15 years now) that even at a local level it is all about power and position, rarely is anyone interested in serving anyone but themselves or their personal interests.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:02 PM

There's something beautiful happening between you two today. It's almost like you're bonding or something else incredibly manly. :alien:

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396064)
There's something beautiful happening between you two today. It's almost like you're bonding or something else incredibly manly. :alien:

Guns tend to bring men together. :sniper:

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:07 PM

Yeah, within firing range so they can shoot each other.

TheMercenary 10-16-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 396073)
Yeah, within firing range so they can shoot each other.

That is not bonding. I thought you were talking about bonding. The key to meeting someone you want to confront "within firing range" would be to be a good shot and have a more accurate longer firing range than your target. :D

Aliantha 10-16-2007 10:14 PM

:alien:

rkzenrage 10-16-2007 10:18 PM

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you would have to be an idiot to run for any major office
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you there.
The last few ranges I have been on have had a lot of women on them.


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