Black people 'less intelligent' scientist claims
 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2677098.ece
Black people 'less intelligent' scientist claims
A very sad day for me. Watson was a real hero of mine.
Not only the bigotry, the fact that I don't believe in race, but the shoddy science is really the worst of it for me.
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The idea that we all deserve equal treatment and opportunity under the law does not equate to an imaginary scientific conclusion that all human beings are, literally, biologically equal. Don't fall prey to Political Correctness. If you define groups of people based on genetic differences, then they are going to gave genetic differences, because you have defined them based on genetic differences. So they will have them. This is no surprise.

Political Correctness kills Free Speech. If we allow it to interfere with Science, we're all doomed. "Feeling Good" does not make facts.

meaningless. as a race, asians are probably smarter than europeans. africans are probably more nimble and athletic than both. individuals vary, obviously. i mean...look at freshness. he's one dumb asian. i'm glad the old guy had the balls to speak his mind. jimmy the greek got fucked.

I agree, PC is mostly BS and harms most things including science, however:
He did not present any data, it is not his field and there is only one race, the human race.

He didn't present any data, or there wasn't any data presented in the article?

Or, the third option, that no data is necessary to support this statement (the product of logical thinking): It isn't what we're supposed to say, but, what about it is wrong? What is logically wrong with what he said?

It's a fluffy assumption... no data. Intelligence cannot be quantified that way.
Again, not his field.

How is it fluffy? What data does it require? Why is genetics "not his field" if he is a geneticist?

This part:

That's where he suddenly switches from talking about segregated, African genetic groups to any and all Western, homogenized-by-countless-generations black people.

Genetics is his field, not testing intelligence.
I have yet to see any data that states that he did any exhaustive studies in that area at all, in fact, or that he has any background in that field.

There was no genetic evidence shown and his "reasons" could easily be refuted by a sociologist. Education will play a much bigger role in intelligence than genetics when it comes to large groups.

If the entire scientific community denies his claims, I would take this as more personal reasoning than anything since he has shown to be prejudice against gays in the past.

True.

I thought we did this bell curve thing decades ago. This fella has let his profession dictate his logic, trying to find the genetic reason for something that is clearly environmental. While he does make a point that geographic separation could play a part, the only separation that's shown to make a difference in intelligence is education/social class. Likewise, physical strength will be different in a working class versus ruling class, all things equal. It's like a mathematician trying to find equations for emotions, some things can not be covered in your chosen expertise.

sidenote: if you don't want to see a refute of an irrelevant and unnecessary comment that fatass made then don't read, but fatass had to stir up shit with me for no apparent reason AGAIN
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I'm only "dumb" because you don't understand me nor feel the need to try to.
I've never been cocky here in this forum about my intelligence but I believe I am 10x smarter than fatass ever will be. So he has more experience in life obviously, but coming from the community that I was raised in, the grades I had, the GPA I earned, the honors societies I belonged to, I can safely say I am almost guaranteeing I have more brains. Naperville, one of the most affluent cities in the state of Illinois. Our school district is chronically in the top five of the whole nation for years in nationally averages, fun fact: it was #1 in the world in Math and Science for grade schoolers; ahead of China. Oh, so it doesn't reflect on me huh? You'd be dumb to think it wouldn't, even if indirectly.

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He wouldn't be able to do it. There is more genetic variation within a race than there are between them.

Yup, which is why the idea of different "races" has very little evidence to back it up. The percentage isn't even close to 50% as well, I think it is around 85 and 15.